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Carta a Esmie y Arthur Branner, 30/11/2018 – respuestas a las afirmaciones erroneas de su tema “PROPHECY SCIENCE & THE NEW WORLD ORDER(Part- 3)(Pastor Arthur Branner) 11-17-18”
Querida hermana Esmie,

Estamos agradecidos a Dios por trabajar con poder y difundir la verdad tan rápidamente. Como han visto, los sermones del hermano Arthur han sido traducidos a varios idiomas, y apoyamos el mensaje de las partes 1 y 2. Dicho esto, tenemos un punto de vista diferente sobre lo que se dice en la tercera parte. Nuestro punto de vista es compartido por casi todos los que trabajan en puestos de avanzada fuera de las ciudades, en las montañas, y por David Gates también, con quien el hermano Arthur va a predicar.

Les presentamos aquí nuestro punto de vista relacionado con la inspiración, pero, desafortunadamente, no tenemos tiempo para un estudio amplio, sólo para uno corto. Aquí también presentamos nuestra creencia cuando se trata de las declaraciones de Elena G. de White de no haber más tiempo profético definido (nos gustaría que el hermano Arthur las estudiara y las llevara ante el Señor antes de comenzar a predicar con el hermano David Gates. Es imperativo que ambos prediquen unidos. El pueblo debe ver un frente unido, sin diferencias de opinión, eso es lo que dará poder al mensaje. Por favor, consulte al hermano Gates sobre esto. Antes del hermano Arthur, el hermano Gates predicó con Jeremiah Davis pero el hno Jeremiah habló en contra del mensaje. Esto le quitó de su poder. Toda diferencia de opinión de los que predican el mensaje le quita de su poder).

En la tercera parte de la serie, el hermano Arthur presenta que los escritores de la Biblia pensaron que el Señor vendría durante sus vidas. Esto se sostiene con citas como:

KJV Hechos 2

17 Y acontecerá en los postreros días, dice Dios: Derramaré de mi Espíritu sobre toda carne; y vuestros hijos y vuestras hijas profetizarán, y vuestros jóvenes verán visiones, y vuestros ancianos soñarán sueños:

KJV Hebreos 1

2 En estos postreros días nos ha hablado por su Hijo, a quien constituyó heredero de todas las cosas, y por quien también hizo el universo;

Sostenemos que esto también es cierto, es muy claro en la Biblia. Sin embargo, aunque ellos escribieron partes de la Biblia mientras tenían esta creencia, todo, cada palabra que fue escrita es inspirada y completamente verdadera. Los profetas son sólo mensajeros, no siempre entienden lo que están escribiendo, pero cada palabra fue inspirada y no hay error (en realidad ninguno de nosotros o de ellos entiende completamente la Biblia, los escritos de el Espíritu de Profecía dicen que ni siquiera 1000 años serían suficientes para entenderla, fue escrita por una mente infinita). En este caso de los “últimos días”, lo que se escribió es completamente cierto. En primer lugar, los escritores no usaron los “últimos días” como en los días literales, todos podemos reconocerlo. Se usó como tiempo profético. Aunque creyeran que Jesús vendría durante sus vidas, no creían que les quedaban unos días, sino varios años. También, la profecía de Joel fue citada mostrando que ellos usaron la expresión “últimos días” en el contexto de la profecía. Pero tenemos más que el principio de “un día por un año”:

RV 2 Pedro 3

La paciencia de Dios

8 Pero, amados, no ignoréis esto: que un día está con el Señor como mil años y mil años como un día.

9 El Señor no es negligente en su promesa, como algunos la consideran negligente, sino que es paciente para con nosotros, no queriendo que ninguno perezca, sino que todos lleguen al arrepentimiento.

Esto fue escrito por Pedro en el contexto de la segunda venida. Comienza con una amonestación “amado, no seas ignorante”, así como el cuarto mandamiento comienza con “recuerda”. El principio del “día de los mil años” se aplica en Génesis, en el que se le dijo a Adán que moriría el mismo DÍA que comiera del fruto prohibido. Esta fue una profecía, no vivió más de 1000 años: un día como mil años. Esto también se aplica en el contexto de los “últimos días”. Jesús le dijo a Juan que Él vendría rápidamente:

Revelación 3 de KJV

11 He aquí, yo vengo pronto; ten lo que tienes, para que nadie tome tu corona.

¿Es eso falso? ¿No sabía Jesús que se tardarían muchos años más hasta su venida? ¿Por qué dijo rápidamente? Porque Dios es el centro del universo y del tiempo también. Debemos pensar en cómo ve el tiempo, no en cómo lo vemos nosotros. Su visión del tiempo está en la Biblia, para Él un día es como mil años. Desde la perspectiva de Jesús, Él iba a venir rápidamente, despues de sólo otros 2 días (2000 años para nosotros). Le dijo esto a Juan al final de la vida de Juan. Los apóstoles ya habían entendido y tomado en consideración que Jesús no vendría durante sus vidas.

Así que lo que estaba escrito en el Nuevo Testamento relacionado con los “últimos días” es completamente exacto, completamente inspirado, eran los últimos días de la semana milenaria. Simplemente no lo entendieron bien.

Ahora llegamos a lo que se dijo a través de Elena G. de White. El hermano Arthur cree que cada vez que Elena G. de White afirma que estaba viviendo en el tiempo del sellamiento o que la lluvia tardía estaba a punto de caer, ella habla como una opinión y creencia personal. Esto implica que sólo algunos de sus escritos (claramente no estamos hablando de escritos que ella escribió con un carácter común, relacionados con alimentos, asuntos familiares u otras cosas de este tipo) son inspirados, y algunos son sólo opiniones personales.

Ella dice lo contrario:

Ahora estoy repasando mis diarios y copias de cartas escritas hace varios años, desde antes de que me fuera a Europa, antes de que usted naciera. Tengo la materia más preciosa para reproducir y poner ante el pueblo en forma de testimonio. Mientras puedo hacer este trabajo, la gente debe tener estas cosas para revivir la historia pasada, para que puedan ver que en lo que he escrito, hay una cadena ininterrumpida de verdad, sin una sola frase herética. Esto, se me ha instruido, ser una carta viva para todos con respecto a mi fe. Lt329a-1905.3

Me alegro de que estéis teniendo éxito en la venta de mis libros; porque así estáis dando al mundo la luz que Dios me ha dado, estos libros contienen la verdad clara, honesta, e inalterable, y ciertamente deberían ser apreciados. Las instrucciones que contienen no son de humana producción. Lt339-1904.1

Cuando escribía estos preciosos libros, si titubeaba, se me proporcionaba la palabra misma que yo quería para expresar la ideaL t265-1907.15

También, el principio que debe ser considerado para todos sus escritos:

En cuanto a los testimonios, nada es ignorado; NADA ES DEJADO DE UN LADO; PERO EL TIEMPO Y EL LUGAR DEBEN SER CONSIDERADOS. 1SM 57,2

Hacemos hincapié en que “nada se deja de lado”.

De estas citas, podemos ver que ella sostenía que no sólo sus libros eran verdad sin adulterar, sino que sus cartas y diarios personales también lo eran. ¿Cómo funciona esto entonces, cuando ella hizo esas afirmaciones, fue una opinión personal, fue un error? Traemos a su atención las siguientes citas:

De la misma manera, no era la voluntad de Dios que la venida de Cristo se retrasara tanto y que su pueblo permaneciera tantos años en este mundo de pecado y tristeza. Pero la incredulidad los separó de Dios. Como se negaron a hacer la obra que Él les había designado, otros fueron levantados para proclamar el mensaje. En misericordia con el mundo, Jesús retrasa su venida, para que los pecadores puedan tener la oportunidad de escuchar la advertencia y encontrar en Él un refugio antes de que la ira de Dios sea derramada. GC 458.1

No era la voluntad de Dios que la venida de Cristo se retrasara así. Dios no quiso que su pueblo, Israel, anduviera cuarenta años en el desierto. Prometió llevarlos directamente a la tierra de Canaán, y establecerlos allí como un pueblo santo, sano y feliz. Pero aquellos a quienes se les predicó por primera vez, no entraron “por incredulidad”. Sus corazones estaban llenos de murmuraciones, rebelión y odio, y Él no podía cumplir Su pacto con ellos. Ev 696,1

Es el privilegio de todo cristiano no sólo esperar sino también acelerar la venida de nuestro Señor Jesucristo, (2 Pedro 3:12, margen). Si todos los que profesan su nombre dieran fruto para su gloria, con cuánta rapidez el mundo entero sería sembrado con la semilla del evangelio. Rápidamente maduraría la última gran cosecha, y Cristo vendría a recoger el precioso grano. COL 69

– en estas 3 citas, está claramente declarado que el Señor Jesús retrasa Su venida y que no es la voluntad de Dios que Su venida se retrase tanto y que por nuestras acciones podemos acelerar Su venida. Todo esto, tomado literalmente, implica que la venida de Cristo no es un evento fijo, Él habría venido hace mucho tiempo, pero algo no le permitió hacerlo. Como siempre, hay que tener en cuenta el factor humano. Esto se indica claramente en las siguientes citas:

Hermanos y hermanas, de la luz que me fue dada, yo sé que si el pueblo de Dios hubiera conservado una conexión viva con Él, si hubiera obedecido Su Palabra, estaría hoy en el Canaán celestial. Oh, qué triste me hace ver el camino que se cierne sobre nosotros, y saber que cada vez es más difícil llevar el mensaje a la gente! BGC 30 de marzo de 1903, Art. A, par. 25

(Tenga en cuenta que esto no es una opinión, ella lo declara claramente como un hecho, comienza con “Yo sé”, no con “Yo creo”. Además, se indica claramente la fuente de este conocimiento: “de la luz que me ha sido dada”. Esto no era una opinión, sino conocimiento del trono de Dios, la fuente de luz)

Puede que tengamos que permanecer aquí en este mundo debido a la insubordinación por muchos años más, como lo hicieron los hijos de Israel; pero por amor a Cristo, Su pueblo no debe añadir pecado al pecado acusando a Dios de la consecuencia de su propio curso de acción erróneo.- Carta 184, 1901. EV 696

(Esto muestra claramente por qué Jesús no pudo venir durante la vida de los pioneros, fue por insubordinación)
Durante cuarenta años la incredulidad, la murmuración y la rebelión excluyeron al antiguo Israel de la tierra de Canaán. Los mismos pecados han retrasado la entrada del Israel moderno en la Canaán celestial. En ninguno de los dos casos fueron las promesas de Dios las que tuvieron la culpa. Es la incredulidad, la mundanalidad, la falta de consagración y la lucha entre el pueblo profesado del Señor lo que nos ha mantenido en este mundo de pecado y dolor durante tantos años. – Manuscrito 4, 1883. Ev 696,2

Jesús espera que su ejército esté listo, necesita un pueblo santo, sin mancha ni arruga:

“Cuando el fruto da a luz, inmediatamente se mete en la hoz porque la cosecha ha llegado.” Cristo está esperando con anhelo la manifestación de sí mismo en su iglesia. CUANDO EL CARÁCTER de Cristo sea perfectamente reproducido en Su pueblo, ENTONCES ÉL VENDRÁ a reclamarlos como suyos. CT 324.3

Con todo Su poder y todo Su deseo, Él no puede forzarlo a suceder porque eso implicaría que Él pasaría por alto nuestro libre albedrío. Hay que tener en cuenta el factor humano. Jesús vendrá a tomar un pueblo obediente y totalmente santificado. Eso no depende sólo de Él, sino también de nosotros, somos colaboradores con Él, pero si decidimos no trabajar no hay nada que Dios pueda hacer al respecto, Él debe dejarnos cosechar las consecuencias. “No entraron por su incredulidad”.
He aquí un ejemplo en el que Jesús hubiera querido venir:

Si los adventistas, después de la gran desilusión de 1844, hubieran mantenido firme su fe y seguido unidos en la providencia inicial de Dios, recibiendo el mensaje del tercer ángel y en el poder del Espíritu Santo proclamándolo al mundo, habrían visto la salvación de Dios, el Señor habría obrado poderosamente con sus esfuerzos, la obra se habría completado, y Cristo habría venido antes para recibir a su pueblo a su recompensa. Pero en el período de duda e incertidumbre que siguió a la decepción, muchos de los creyentes adventistas cedieron su fe….. Así se dificultó el trabajo, y el mundo quedó en tinieblas. Si todo el cuerpo adventista se hubiera unido en torno a los mandamientos de Dios y la fe de Jesús, ¡cuán diferente habría sido nuestra historia! Ev 695,3

La belleza de esto está en el calendario profético del Señor. En la economía judía, 10 días antes del Día de la Expiación era la Fiesta de las Trompetas. De la misma manera, las trompetas comenzaron a sonar 10 años antes de 1844, y sonaban cada vez más fuerte. Según el calendario, el antitípico Día de la Expiación podría haber durado sólo un año. Según la declaración anterior, si la gente se hubiera mantenido unida después de la gran desilusión, el Señor habría obrado poderosamente y habría venido.
Otro ejemplo es el de 1888. El Señor quiso derramar la lluvia tardía sobre su pueblo, de nuevo quiso trabajar poderosamente, pero la incredulidad y la rebelión se interpusieron de nuevo en el camino:

Esta bendición se extendió a un gran número, pero ¿por qué no continuó esta dulce y santa obra en los corazones y las mentes? Algunos se sintieron molestos por esta efusión, y sus propias disposiciones naturales se manifestaron. Dijeron: “Esto es sólo excitación; no es el Espíritu Santo, no las lluvias del cielo de la lluvia tardía”. Había corazones llenos de incredulidad, que no bebían del Espíritu, sino que tenían amargura en sus almas. 1888 Materiales, 1478.1

En muchas ocasiones el Espíritu Santo trabajó, pero aquellos que resistieron al Espíritu de Dios en Minneapolis estaban esperando la oportunidad de viajar sobre el mismo terreno de nuevo porque su espíritu era el mismo. Después, cuando tuvieron pruebas acumuladas, algunos fueron condenados, pero los que no fueron ablandados y subyugados por la obra del Espíritu Santo, pusieron su propia interpretación sobre cada manifestación de la gracia de Dios, y han perdido mucho. Ellos pronunciaron en su corazón y en su alma y en sus palabras que esta manifestación del Espíritu Santo era fanatismo y engaño. Se pararon como una roca, las olas de misericordia fluyendo sobre ellos y alrededor de ellos, pero golpeados por sus corazones duros y malvados, que resistieron la acción del Espíritu Santo. Si esto hubiera sido recibido, los habría hecho sabios para la salvación; hombres más santos, preparados para hacer la obra de Dios con habilidad santificada. Pero todo el universo del cielo fue testigo del trato vergonzoso de Jesucristo, representado por el Espíritu Santo. Si Cristo hubiera estado antes que ellos, lo habrían tratado de una manera similar a la que los judíos trataron a Cristo. 1888 1478.2

Una falta de voluntad para ceder opiniones preconcebidas, y para aceptar esta verdad, puso en el fundamento de una gran parte de la oposición manifestada en Minneapolis contra el mensaje del Señor a través de los hermanos[E.J.] Waggoner y[A.T.] Jones. Al excitar esa oposición, Satanás logró apartar de nuestro pueblo, en gran medida, el PODER ESPECIAL del Espíritu Santo que Dios anhelaba impartirles. El enemigo les impidió obtener esa eficiencia que podría haber sido suya para llevar la verdad al mundo, como lo proclamaron los apóstoles después del día de Pentecostés. LA LUZ QUE ES PARA ALUMBRAR TODA LA TIERRA con su gloria fue resistida, y por la acción de nuestros propios hermanos ha sido en gran medida mantenida lejos del mundo. 1SM 234,6

(Ahora os pregunto, ¿qué luz es la luz que ha de iluminar al mundo entero? ¿Cuál es el poder especial del Espíritu Santo que Dios anhela impartirnos?

Todo esto se compara con la eficiencia de los apóstoles que recibieron después de la primera lluvia. Por lo tanto, aquí se habla claramente de la lluvia tardía. Los adventistas rechazaron la lluvia tardía.)
Es muy posible que los Ancianos Jones y Waggoner sean derrocados por las tentaciones del enemigo; pero si lo fueran, esto no probaría que no habían recibido ningún mensaje de Dios, o que el trabajo que habían hecho era un error. Pero si esto sucediera, ¿cuántos tomarían esta posición, y entrarían en un engaño fatal porque no están bajo el control del Espíritu de Dios? Caminan en las chispas de su propio fuego, y no pueden distinguir entre el fuego que han encendido y la luz que Dios les ha dado, y caminan en ceguera como lo hicieron los judíos. Sé que esta es la posición que muchos tomarían si cualquiera de estos hombres cayera, y oro para que estos hombres sobre quienes Dios ha puesto la carga de una obra solemne, puedan dar a la trompeta un cierto sonido, y honrar a Dios a cada paso, y que su camino a cada paso crezca más y más brillante hasta el fin del tiempo. – Carta 24, 1892, p. 5 (Al anciano Urías Smith, 19 de septiembre de 1892.) 3MR 201.2

Nunca antes había visto entre nuestra gente un yo tan firme: la autocomplacencia y la falta de voluntad para aceptar y reconocer la luz como se manifestó en Minneapolis. Se me ha mostrado que ninguno de los miembros de la compañía que acariciaba el espíritu manifestado en esa reunión volvería a tener una luz clara para discernir la preciosidad de la verdad enviada desde el cielo hasta que humillaran su orgullo y confesaran que no habían sido actuados por el Espíritu de Dios, sino que sus mentes y corazones estaban llenos de prejuicios. El Señor deseaba acercarse a ellos, bendecirlos y sanarlos de sus recaídas, pero ellos no escucharon. Fueron actuados por el mismo espíritu que inspiró a Coré, Datán y Abiram. Esos hombres de Israel estaban decididos a resistirse a toda evidencia que demostrara que estaban equivocados, y continuaron y continuaron en su curso de desafección hasta que muchos fueron atraídos a unirse con ellos. 1888 1067.1

(Al igual que Coré, Datán y Abiram, el pueblo se rebeló justo a la entrada de la Canaán celestial).
No sólo Elena G. de White, sino también otros sabían que esto era cierto:

ATJ

A. T. Jones

Hace poco recibí una carta del hermano Starr en Australia. Leeré dos o tres frases porque vienen bien en este lugar en nuestras lecciones: GCB/GCDB 1893, pág. 377,1

“La hermana White dice que hemos estado en el tiempo de la lluvia tardía desde la reunión de Minneapolis.” GCB/GCDB 1893, pág. 377,2

Pues bien, la lluvia tardía -el fuerte pregón – según el testimonio y según la Escritura, es “la enseñanza de la justicia”, y también “según la justicia”. Ahora bien, hermanos, ¿cuándo comenzó ese mensaje de la justicia de Cristo con nosotros como pueblo? Uno o dos en la audiencia: “Hace tres o cuatro años.” ¿Cuál era, tres? ¿O cuatro? Sí, cuatro. Sí, cuatro. ¿Dónde estaba? ¿Qué rechazaron los hermanos en Minneapolis? Algunos en la Congregación: “El fuerte pregón.” ¿Cuál es ese mensaje de justicia? El Testimonio nos ha dicho lo que es; el fuerte pregón – la lluvia tardía. Entonces, ¿qué rechazaron los hermanos en esa temible posición en la que se encontraban en Minneapolis? Rechazaron la lluvia tardía – el fuerte pregón del mensaje del tercer ángel. GCB/GCDB 1893, pág. 183,5

No sólo esto, sino que Elena G. de White dijo de antemano a la congregación que Jesús quería derramar su Espíritu. Esta es una cita del Boletín de la Conferencia General de 1888:

“Las exhortaciones de la hermana White han sido muy alentadoras, ya que ha presentado el amor de Cristo y su disposición a ayudar. Que está esperando para derramar su Espíritu sobre su pueblo en abundancia.” 26 de octubre de 1888

Pero también declaró las condiciones para esta efusión. Esta es una cita del 19 de octubre de 1888:

“Los hermanos Waggoner y White apelaron a los hermanos, ancianos y jóvenes, para que busquen a Dios, dejen de lado todo espíritu de prejuicio y oposición, y se esfuercen por llegar a la unidad de la fe en los lazos del amor fraternal.”
Como pueden ver, el Señor anunció la lluvia tardía. Comenzó a llover gotas de la lluvia tardía en aquel entonces en esa conferencia, pero la gente no le permitió derramarlas por completo sobre ellos.
Las afirmaciones de Elena G. de White no eran opiniones personales, eran hechos, verdades inspiradas por el Espíritu Santo. Jesús comenzó a mover las cosas y a trabajar con poder para su segunda venida varias veces desde 1844, pero la gente se rebeló y desobedeció cada vez. ¿No es eso lo que aprendemos también de la Biblia, no hizo lo mismo el pueblo judío, no fue el Señor el que sufrió por ellos? Dios no quiere que suframos ni siquiera una hora, nuestras propias elecciones hacen que el sufrimiento sea necesario para nosotros. Simplemente no obedecemos palabras/pensamientos/instrucciones simples, amables y gentiles que nos llegan a través de la Biblia, los profetas, el Espíritu Santo. Al igual que un niño desobediente, al final debemos experimentar sufrimiento para poder despertar y obedecer. Esto es especialmente cierto para nosotros, la última generación. Dios no tiene otra opción que dejar que una horrible cadena de eventos ocurra. La devastación, las atrocidades, el sufrimiento humano, nos hará dejar de lado nuestras pequeñas diferencias y buscar a Dios con todo nuestro corazón y lágrimas por Su lluvia tardía, para que podamos serle útiles para aliviar a la gente de su dolor y sufrimiento y tener la paz del Señor. Este es el último recurso, Dios no quería que llegara a esto, pero nosotros, como pueblo, no le hemos dejado otra opción. Lo que la iglesia pudo haber hecho en tiempos de paz pero no lo hizo, lo tendrá que hacer en las circunstancias más desalentadoras.

Esto nos lleva a lo que dijo Elena G. de White sobre que el tiempo no será más:

Revelación 10

6 Y juró por el que vive por los siglos de los siglos, que creó el cielo, y las cosas que en él hay, y la tierra, y las cosas que en él hay, y el mar, y las cosas que en él hay, que ya no habría tiempo:

Este tiempo, que el Ángel declara con juramento solemne, no es el fin de la historia de este mundo, ni del tiempo de prueba, sino del tiempo profético, que debe preceder al advenimiento de nuestro Señor. Es decir, la gente no tendrá otro mensaje con un tiempo definido. Después de este período de tiempo, que va de 1842 a 1844, no puede haber un trazado definitivo del tiempo profético. La cuenta más larga llega hasta el otoño de 1844. Ms59-1900.24

Las profecías dadas en Daniel son incondicionales, definidas, independientes de la acción humana. El juicio iba a comenzar en 1844, sin importar lo que la gente hubiera hecho. Esos tiempos estaban completamente fijados. Pero, después de 1844, ya no hay tiempos fijos porque los acontecimientos dependían del factor humano. La ley dominical, el juicio de los vivos, la segunda venida, todos ellos dependen del hecho de que tiene que haber un pueblo listo para ellos:

A veces se hace la pregunta: “¿Por qué, si tenemos la verdad, no vemos una mayor manifestación del Espíritu de Dios? Dios no puede revelarse hasta que aquellos que profesan ser cristianos sean hacedores de Su palabra en sus vidas privadas, hasta que haya unidad con Cristo, una santificación del cuerpo, alma y espíritu. Entonces serán templos aptos para la vida en el Espíritu Santo. – Carta 139, 1898, pp. 2, 3, 12. (A. T. Jones, 16 de diciembre de 1898.) 2MR 27.1

2015 no es el primer intento de iniciar el juicio de los vivos y dar paso a la ley dominical. Esto también sucedió en tiempos de A. T. Jones. Pero el pueblo rechazó el mensaje de la justificación por la fe. Este intervalo de 3,5 años que ahora se proclama entre 2015 y 2019 podría haber tenido lugar antes. Y aunque se anuncia como un antitipo a través de Daisy, todavía no es definitivo. Las cosas todavía pueden ir mal y la fecha puede ser pospuesta incluso unos meses.

Entendemos que hay un límite de tiempo para posponer las cosas. Para Dios, “mil años son como un día”. Esto se aplica a la semana del milenio. Los 1000 años en el cielo son un sábado y, por lo tanto, la obra del Señor en esta tierra no puede continuar por más de 6000 años (los pioneros lo sabían muy bien, como se puede encontrar en los escritos de William Miller). De los escritos del Espíritu de Profecía concluimos que los seis mil años lo más probable se terminarán en el 2031. El Señor dijo que acortará el tiempo por amor a los elegidos. ¿Cuánto lo acortará? Bueno, eso depende de nosotros, nosotros somos los que seguimos posponiendo Su venida. Dicho esto, a Jesús no le queda más remedio que soltar lentamente los 4 vientos para determinar que su pueblo lo busque con todo su corazón. Podemos ser inertes, como pueblo, en tiempos de paz, pero cuando estemos rodeados por las mareas de sufrimiento y devastación, esto acelerará nuestra preparación. Este es el último recurso y funcionará porque la obra necesita ser terminada antes de los 1000 años del Sábado en el cielo.
Consideramos que afirmar que “los últimos días” en el Nuevo Testamento son sólo el punto de vista hombres, es erroneo: RV 2 Timoteo 3

16 TODA LA ESCRITURA ES INSPIRADA por Dios, y útil para enseñar, para redargüir, para corregir, para instruir en justicia:

Las Sagradas Escrituras deben ser aceptadas como una revelación autorizada e infalible de Su voluntad. Son la norma de carácter, el revelador de doctrinas y la prueba de la experiencia.

Absolutamente cada palabra es inspirada y verdadera. No se entiende necesariamente, pero es verdad. El concepto de que algunas de las cosas son sólo opiniones personales (tanto en la Biblia como en el Espíritu de Profecía) proviene de las escuelas de los rabinos modernos (teólogos – por definición expertos en religión). Por favor, reconozca que Jesús se mantuvo alejado de las escuelas de los rabinos. Las instituciones educativas adventistas son cualquier cosa menos lo que una escuela debe ser como se describe en los escritos de el Espíritu de Profecía.

Cada palabra escrita en la Biblia y Espíritu de Profecía es inspirada. Los escritos de Elena G. de White son tan inspirados como los de Pedro, Juan, Pablo, etc. Sus escritos eran simples cartas también, no fueron escritos con el propósito de ser compilados en un libro. Las epístolas no fueron dadas en visiones, eran simplemente pensamientos 100% inspirados por el Espíritu Santo. Cuando el hermano Arthur dice que “no habrá más tiempo profético definido” es sólo el punto de vista de Elena G. de White, sin saberlo desacredita los escritos de el Espíritu de Profecía. Lo que dijo fue un mensaje para la iglesia. Era de Jesús, no de ella misma. Es cierto que la declaración es malinterpretada, pero no en la forma en que el hermano Arthur piensa. Esta creencia de opinión personal anula el 90% de las instrucciones dadas a través de ella. Deja todo abierto a la interpretación. Esta creencia, tan fuertemente arraigada entre los pastores, es una de las razones por las que la gente no sale de las ciudades, no hace cambios importantes en sus vidas. Si no se dio en una visión, piensan que es sólo un consejo, no obligatorio, sólo una opinión personal. Así es como Satanás atacó los escritos del Espíritu de Profecía. ¿Por qué es importante? Porque Dios da luz no sólo a través de la inspiración directa sino a través de otras personas. En nuestra búsqueda de la verdad no sólo nos inspira directamente mientras estudiamos la Biblia, sino que también nos envía a personas que tienen las verdades que Él quiere darnos. La afirmación del hermano Arthur de que no necesitamos que otros nos digan qué hacer, que podemos estudiar y descubrir por nosotros mismos, puede ser interpretada mal. Hemos conocido a muchos que no renunciaron a sus “hallazgos” de su estudio personal porque pensaban que podían averiguarlo todo por sí mismos. Así no es como funciona el cielo, Dios da instrucciones a los ángeles que las transmiten a otros y así sucesivamente. Los mismos principios se aplican a nosotros, Dios es el mismo. Él dará a algunos una verdad especial, pero no la dará directamente a todos, Él dirigirá a los otros a escuchar esas verdades de Sus mensajeros. En los escritos de el Espíritu de Profecía, tenemos el sueño de William Miller, de un cofre con muchas joyas preciosas que representan verdades. Por favor, léanlo de nuevo y entiendan que Dios da a cada uno algunas verdades y luego nos pone en contacto con los demás para reunir esas verdades. Para poder construir un panorama más amplio, debemos negar nuestro orgullo y dejar atrás nuestras apreciadas, pero erróneas ideas. El estudio personal es necesario, pero no es 100% seguro. La verdad se establece en la boca de dos o tres testigos. El estudio personal es sólo un testigo.

La Biblia dice:

KJV Proverbios 11

14 Donde no hay consejo, el pueblo cae; pero en la multitud de consejeros hay seguridad.

Los escritos de el Espíritu de Profecía establecen que Dios no dará una verdad especial a un solo individuo.

Todo esto implica que comparemos nuestros hallazgos con los de otros. Esto le fue mostrado a Daisy también, que todos nosotros también estudiaremos como grupos en las montañas y compartiremos nuestros hallazgos.

Debemos aprender a actuar como un grupo, armoniosamente, y la Biblia predijo del remanente que ellos hablarán con frecuencia:

Malaquías 3

16 Entonces los que temen a Jehová hablaron a menudo cada uno a su compañero; y Jehová escuchó y oyó, y fue escrito libro de memoria delante de Él para los que temen a Jehová, y para los que piensan en su nombre.

En conclusión, la gente necesita los escritos de el Espíritu de Profecía. El énfasis del Hermano Arthur en el estudio de la Biblia es incompleto, Dios da un entendimiento importante a través de Elena G. de White y parte de él no será dado a ningún adventista directamente, todos serán dirigidos a leer el Espíritu de Profecía para descubrirlo. Esto fue confirmado en los sueños de Daisy también, en múltiples sueños, se le muestra que los únicos libros que el remanente tenían eran la Biblia, los escritos de el Espíritu de Profecía y el viejo libro de himnos. Se le muestra el remanente estudiando los escritos de el Espíritu de Profecía.

VRV Isaías 8

20 a la ley y al testimonio; si no hablan conforme a esta palabra, es porque no hay luz en ellos.

El testimonio de Jesús es el Espíritu de Profecía. En nuestro caso no sólo los escritos de EW sino también las instrucciones dadas a través de Daisy. La Biblia nos envía a sí misma y a los profetas también. Ambos tienen el mismo autor (algo que nos gustaría mencionar. Elena G. de White y los pioneros consideraron que el Espíritu de Profecía era el don del Espíritu Santo, no Sus escritos. Siempre se refirieron a los escritos de EW como “los escritos del Espíritu de Profecía” o “los consejos del Espíritu de Profecía”, etc. pero no como los escritos siendo el Espíritu de Profecía mismo. Eso significaría que la Biblia también es el Espíritu de Profecía. el Espíritu de Profecía ES EL DON MANIFESTADO EN UN PROFETA VIVIENTE. El remanente tendrá el testimonio de Jesús, el Espíritu de Profecía manifestado a través de un profeta viviente.

RV 2 Pedro 1

19 Tenemos también una palabra profética más segura a la que hacéis bien en prestar atención, como a una luz que resplandece en un lugar oscuro, hasta que el día amanezca, y el lucero del día se levante en vuestros corazones:

El Hermano Arthur menciona citas de “Consejos a escritores y editores” cap 4 y 5 acerca de la nueva luz y que las creencias de la iglesia no son infalibles (pero los pilares de nuestra fe son fijos, no se pueden mover). El Instituto Madison ha estado compartiendo estos capítulos durante años porque son muy importantes. Nos gustaría señalar que se trata de doctrinas eclesiásticas, no de los escritos de el Espíritu de Profecía. Las doctrinas apreciadas por la Iglesia pueden ser erróneas, pero el Espíritu de Profecía, el testimonio de Jesús, es la verdad.
La gente necesita ser animada a creer a los profetas:

VRV 2 Crônicas 20

20 Y se levantaron de madrugada, y salieron al desierto de Tékoa; y como salieron, Josafat se puso en pie y dijo: Oidme, oh Judá, y moradores de Jerusalén; Creed en Jehová vuestro Dios, así seréis confirmados; CREED EN SUS PROFETAS, ASÍ SERÉIS PROSPERADOS.

Cuando Dios levanta un profeta en Israel, se debe dar a conocer al pueblo.

KJV 1 Samuel 3

19 Y Samuel creció, y Jehová estaba con él, y no dejó caer ninguna de sus palabras al suelo.

20 Y TODO ISRAEL, desde Dan hasta Beer-seba, SABÍA QUE SAMUEL HABÍA SIDO CONFIRMADO COMO PROFETA DE JEHOVÁ.

RV 2 Reyes 5

8 Y como Eliseo, varón de Dios oyó que el rey de Israel había rasgado sus vestiduras, envió a decir al rey: ¿Por qué has rasgado tus vestiduras? Venga ahora a mí, Y SABRÁ QUE HAY PROFETA EN ISRAEL.

La profecía siempre fue fundamental:

VRV Salmos 74

9 No vemos nuestras señales; ya no hay profeta; ni hay entre nosotros quien sepa cuánto tiempo.

KJV Amós 3

6 ¿Tocará la trompeta en la ciudad, y el pueblo no temerá? ¿Habrá maldad en la ciudad, y Jehová no la ha hecho?

7 Ciertamente el Señor DIOS no hará nada, sino que revelará su secreto a sus siervos los profetas.

8 El león ha rugido, ¿quién no temerá? El Señor DIOS ha hablado, ¿quién puede sino profetizar?

El Señor está dando mensajes a su pueblo, a través de los instrumentos que ha escogido, y quiere que todos presten atención a las amonestaciones y advertencias que envía. 4BC 1184

VRV Mateo 10

41 El que recibe a un profeta en nombre de un profeta, recibirá la recompensa de un profeta; y el que recibe a un justo en nombre de un justo, recibirá la recompensa de un justo.

Si realmente crees que Daisy es una profetisa, por favor hazlo saber. El tiempo es corto, el sabio entenderá. Hay muchas instrucciones prácticas dadas a través de Daisy para nuestro tiempo. También hay promesas muy, muy importantes para nosotros que no se encuentran en los escritos de EW (por ejemplo, el Señor revela que en algún momento Él derramará el agua de vida sobre nuestras cosechas. Eso hará que crezcan muy rápido y saludables. Esta promesa es muy importante para aquellos que están luchando por salir de las ciudades. Muchos no tienen recursos para dedicarse a una agricultura eficiente y muchos saldrán en el momento oportuno. Esta promesa les dará valor para salir. Si lo creen tendrán paz sabiendo que serán atendidos). Algunos de los amigos que aún no le abandonó a ud hasta ahora, lo harán, algunos de los miembros de la familia, le abandonarán después de anunciar que hay un profeta en Israel, el diablo rugirá de furia, pero el Señor le mantendrá en Su mano amorosa. Si hay un patrón que hemos notado entre todos los adventistas famosos que escuchan a Daisy es que todos se niegan a anunciarla. Nadie reconoce oficialmente que hay un profeta en Israel, aunque ellos lo crean. David Gates hizo algunas declaraciones sobre Daisy en una entrevista, que todo está de acuerdo con la Biblia por ahora, pero nada concreto, nada oficial. La misma contención tuvo lugar durante el día de EW . Pero la gente lo sabrá y les dará valor. El Señor da testimonio de la verdad presente por medio de su profeta viviente, instrucciones importantes para nosotros, amonestaciones, exhortaciones, advertencias. Este es el testimonio de Jesús, Su interacción con Su iglesia a través de el Espíritu de Profecía. Jesús está hablando ahora a través de su débil instrumento. Por favor, dirige a la gente a Jesús, a lo que Él nos está diciendo, a los testimonios.

Algunas otras cosas para que estudies y consideres:

– el juicio de los vivos comienza con los líderes de la iglesia. Estaba a punto de comenzar varias veces después de 1844, pero al igual que en 1888, el factor humano cambió las cosas. El Señor tuvo que esperar por otra generación, así como tuvo que hacer con Israel en la frontera de Canaán. Esta vez los 6000 años están casi terminados y no queda tiempo para otra generación. El Señor reveló a través de Daisy que Su remanente (del cuerpo adventista) es muy pequeño, pero que son suficientes para que Él complete Su obra.

-El sellamiento del remanente no depende de la ley dominical. Dios no necesita la obra del diablo para sellar a Su pueblo. El sellamiento comenzó desde la época de Elena G. de White. El sellamiento tiene que ver con el desarrollo del caracter. Enoh y muchos otros fueron sellados porque desarrollaron un carácter perfecto. La ley dominical será la última prueba para los adventistas de demostrar su caracter, no cambiará el carácter de la noche a la mañana.
– El Señor mostró no sólo a David Gates que el juicio de los vivos comenzó en 2015, sino también al fundador de aquí en el Instituto Madison y a otros con los que estamos en contacto. El juicio de los vivos ES UN PROCESO que terminará con la ley dominical. El próximo año, de acuerdo al tipo, la ley dominical será aprobada en América, pero puede tomar años (posiblemente 3.5 años) para que sea aprobada en todo el mundo (en realidad fue revelado a través de Daisy en un sueño reciente que la ley dominical no será aprobada en todo el mundo en tan poco tiempo, que es un proceso que tomará algún tiempo). El juicio terminará para todos y cada uno en diferentes momentos, terminará cuando la ley dominical les obligue (probablemente económicamente) a tomar una decisión de seguir o no seguir al Señor.

-es posible que la lluvia tardía venga al mismo tiempo para el mundo entero porque tiene que ser en un día de Pentecostés (esto fue revelado a través de Daisy y de otros también, Dios tiene un calendario, Él lo sigue). Esto implica que el juicio de la iglesia visible debe terminar en el mundo entero antes de que la lluvia tardía pueda ser derramada sobre nosotros. Eso significa que la segunda venida puede ser muy cerca del final de los 6000 años. Tendríamos que resistir durante años en las montañas sin ningún apoyo terrenal. Necesitamos ser completamente independientes económicamente. (En algunos de los sueños de Daisy también se pone énfasis en la preparación física hasta el punto de que aquellos que no se preparan físicamente se verán obligados a firmar el decreto debido al hambre extremo, tal como los egipcios se vendieron a si mismos a faraon cuando las 7 vacas flacas). Tenemos que construir las arcas, como hizo Noé. Él y su familia no escaparon del diluvio sólo a través de la preparación espiritual, sino que construyó el arca, almacenó alimentos y creó condiciones de vida adecuadas. Cada uso de su martillo era un testimonio para los demás. De la misma manera, damos un fuerte testimonio a nuestros hermanos y hermanas cuando nos preparamos para lo que está por venir.

Sin estas arcas terminadas, el Señor no puede dejar venir la ley dominical. Eso significaría que no habría personas dispuestas a pasar la crisis de no poder comprar o vender. Debemos acelerar su venida haciendo nuestra parte.

-el fuerte pregón tiene partes: el fuerte pregón en la iglesia y el fuerte pregón en el mundo. El primero también se llama el clamor de medianoche.

VRV Mateo 25

6 Y a la medianoche se oyó un clamor: He aquí que viene el esposo; salid a recibirlo.

Comenzó con los pioneros saliendo de las iglesias caídas y terminará con los adventistas saliendo de la apostasía Omega y la iglesia invisible saliendo de Babilonia.
Dios nos ha estado descubriendo muchos más preciosos rayos de luz. Si usted está interesado y si Dios nos permite tiempo, lo compartiremos con usted.

Le recomendamos que lea estos escritos que también son muy importantes de entender para la última generación, como dice Malaquías 4:4.

http://elultimoclamor.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Holy_History_with_the_Commandments_Statutes_and_Judgments.pdf

http://elultimoclamor.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Exposing_the_Skeleton_in_the_SDA_Closet_of_1888.pdf

http://elultimoclamor.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/New-descovery.pdf

Que Dios los bendiga y los guíe en todo!

Dear sister Esmie,
We are grateful to God for working with power and spreading the truth so quickly. As you have seen, brother Arthur’s sermons have been translated into multiple languages, and we endorse the message from part 1 and part 2. That being said, we have a different point of view regarding what is said in part 3. Our point of view is shared by almost all who work from outposts outside of the cities, in the mountains, and by David Gates as well, with whom brother Arthur is going to preach.
We present to you here our point of view related to inspiration, but, unfortunately, we do not have the time for an ample study, only for a short one. Here we also present our belief when it comes to Ellen White’s statements of not being any more prophetic, definite time (we would like that brother Arthur would study these and take it before the Lord before beginning to preach with brother David Gates. It is imperative that both of them preach unitedly. The people must see a united front, with no difference of opinion, that is what will give power to the message. Please consult brother Gates about this. Before brother Arthur, brother Gates preached with Jeremiah Davis and he spoke against the message. This took away from its power. Every difference of opinion of those that preach the message take away from its power).

In the third part of the series, brother Arthur presents that the Bible writers thought that the Lord was coming during their lifetimes. This is sustained with quotes like:

KJV Acts 2
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

KJV Hebrews 1
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

We hold this to be true as well, it is crystal clear in the Bible. However, even though they wrote parts of the Bible while having this belief, everything, every word that was written is inspired and completely true. The prophets are just messengers, they do not always understand what they are writing, but every word was inspired and there is no error (actually none of us or of them fully understand the Bible, the writings of the SOP say that even 1000 years wouldn’t be enough to understand it, it was written by an infinite mind). In this case of the “last days”, what was written is completely true. First of all, the writers didn’t use “last days” as in literal days, we can all acknowledge that. It was used as prophetic time. Even though they believed Jesus was coming during their lifetimes, they didn’t believe that there were a few days left, but a number of years. Also, Joel’s prophecy was quoted showing that they used the expression “last days” in the context of prophecy. But we have more than the “day for a year” principle:
KJV 2 Peter 3
God’s Patience
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

This was written by Peter in the context of the second coming. It begins with an admonition “beloved be not ignorant”, just like the fourth commandment begins with “remember”. The “day for a thousand years” principle applies to Genesis where Adam was told that he will die the same day he eats of the forbidden fruit. This was a prophecy, he didn’t live past 1000 years: a day as a thousand years. This also applies in the “last days” context. Jesus told John that He is coming quickly:
KJV Revelation 3
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
Is that false? Didn’t Jesus know that it would take many more years until His coming? Why did He say quickly? Because God is the center of the universe and of time as well. We should think of how He views time, not the way we view it. His vision of time is in the Bible, for Him a day is as a thousand years. From Jesus’ perspective, He was going to come quickly, just another 2 days(2000 years for us). He told this to John at the end of John’s life, the apostles had already understood and had taken into consideration that Jesus wasn’t coming during their lifetimes.
So what was written in the New Testament related to the “last days” is completely accurate, completely inspired, it was the last days of the millennial week. They just didn’t understand it properly.
Now we come to what was said through Ellen White. Brother Arthur believes that every time Ellen White claims that she was living in the sealing time or that the latter rain was about to be poured she speaks as a personal opinion and belief. This implies that only some of her spiritual writings (clearly we are not talking about writings that she wrote with a common character, related to groceries, family issues or other such things) are inspired, and some are just personal opinion.
She claims otherwise:

I am now looking over my diaries and copies of letters written for several years back, commencing before I went to Europe, before you were born. I have the most precious matter to reproduce and place before the people in testimony form. While I am able to do this work, the people must have these things to revive past history, that they may see that THERE IS ONE STRAIGHT CHAIN OF TRUTH, WITHOUT ONE HERETICAL SENTENCE, IN THAT WHICH I HAVE WRITTEN. This, I am instructed, is to be a living letter to all in regard to my faith. Lt329a-1905.3

I am glad that you are having success in selling my books; for thus you are giving to the world the light that God has given me. THESE BOOKS CONTAIN CLEAR, STRAIGHT, UNALTERABLE TRUTH AND THEY SHOULD CERTAINLY BE APPRECIATED. THE INSTRUCTION THEY CONTAIN IS NOT OF HUMAN PRODUCTION. Lt339-1904.1

When writing these precious books, if I hesitated, the very word I wanted to express the idea WAS GIVEN ME. Lt265-1907.15

Also, the principle that should be considered for all of her writings:
Regarding the testimonies, nothing is ignored; NOTHING IS CAST ASIDE; BUT TIME AND PLACE MUST BE CONSIDERED. 1SM 57.2
We place an emphasis on “nothing is cast aside”.

From these quotes, we can see that she held that not only her books were unadulterated truth, but that her letters and personal diaries were as well. How does this work then, when she made those claims was it personal opinion, was it an error? We bring the following quotes to your attention:

In like manner, it was not the will of God that the coming of Christ should be so long delayed and His people should remain so many years in this world of sin and sorrow. But unbelief separated them from God. As they refused to do the work which He had appointed them, others were raised up to proclaim the message. In mercy to the world, Jesus delays His coming, that sinners may have an opportunity to hear the warning and find in Him a shelter before the wrath of God shall be poured out. GC 458.1

It was not the will of God that the coming of Christ should be thus delayed. God did not design that His people, Israel, should wander forty years in the wilderness. He promised to lead them directly to the land of Canaan, and establish them there a holy, healthy, happy people. But those to whom it was first preached, went not in “because of unbelief.” Their hearts were filled with murmuring, rebellion, and hatred, and He could not fulfill His covenant with them. Ev 696.1

It is the privilege of every Christian not only to look for but to hasten the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, (2 Peter 3:12, margin). Were all who profess His name bearing fruit to His glory, how quickly the whole world would be sown with the seed of the gospel. Quickly the last great harvest would be ripened, and Christ would come to gather the precious grain. COL 69

– in these 3 quotes, it is clearly stated that Lord Jesus delays His coming and that it is not God’s will that His coming is so much delayed and that by our actions we can hasten His coming. All of this, taken literally, implies that Christ’s coming is not a fixed event, He would have come a long time ago, but something didn’t allow Him to do so. As always, the human factor needs to be taken into consideration. This is clearly stated in the next quotes:

Brethren and sisters, from the light given me, I know that if the people of God had preserved a living connection with Him, if they had obeyed His Word, they would today be in the heavenly Canaan. Oh, how sad it makes me see the way hedging up before us, and to know that it is becoming more and more difficult to carry the message to the people! GCB March 30, 1903, Art. A, par. 25
(Please notice that this is not an opinion, she clearly states it as a fact, it starts with “I know”, not with “I believe”. Also, the source of this knowledge is clearly stated: “from the light given me”. This was not an opinion, but knowledge from the throne of God, the source of light)

We may have to remain here in this world because of insubordination many more years, as did the children of Israel; but for Christ’s sake, His people should not add sin to sin by charging God with the consequence of their own wrong course of action.–Letter 184, 1901. EV 696
(This clearly shows why Jesus couldn’t come during the pioneers lifetimes, it was because of insubordination)

For forty years did unbelief, murmuring, and rebellion shut out ancient Israel from the land of Canaan. The same sins have delayed the entrance of modern Israel into the heavenly Canaan. In neither case were the promises of God at fault. It is the unbelief, the worldliness, unconsecration, and strife among the Lord’s professed people that have kept us in this world of sin and sorrow so many years. – Manuscript 4, 1883. Ev 696.2

Jesus is waiting for His army to be ready, He needs a holy people, without spot or wrinkle:
“When the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle because the harvest is come.” Christ is waiting with longing desire for the manifestation of Himself in His church. When the character of Christ shall be perfectly reproduced in His people, then He will come to claim them as His own.” CT 324.3

With all His might and all His power, He cannot force it to happen because that would imply that He would bypass our free will. The human factor needs to be taken into consideration. Jesus will come to take an obedient and wholly sanctified people. That doesn’t depend only on Him, but on us as well, we are co-workers with Him, but if we choose not to work there is nothing that God can do about it, He must leave us to reap the consequences. “They went not in because of their unbelief”.

Here is one instance when Jesus would have wanted to come:
Had Adventists, after the great disappointment in 1844, held fast their faith and followed on unitedly in the opening providence of God, receiving the message of the third angel and in the power of the Holy Spirit proclaiming it to the world, they would have seen the salvation of God, the Lord would have wrought mightily with their efforts, the work would have been completed, and Christ would have come ere this to receive His people to their reward. But in the period of doubt and uncertainty that followed the disappointment, many of the advent believers yielded their faith…. Thus the work was hindered, and the world was left in darkness. Had the whole Adventist body united upon the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, how widely different would have been our history! Ev 695.3

The beauty of this is in the Lord’s prophetic calendar. In the Jewish economy, 10 days before the Day of Atonement was the Feast of Trumpets. In the same manner, the trumpets started to be sounded 10 years prior to 1844, and they sounded louder and louder. According to the calendar, the antitypical Day of Atonement could have lasted for only one year. According to the statement above, if the people would have stood united after the great disappointment, the Lord would have worked mightily and would have come.

Another instance is that of 1888. The Lord wanted to pour the latter rain on His people, He again wanted to work mightily, but unbelief and rebellion got in the way again:

This blessing extended to large numbers, but why was not this sweet, holy working continued upon hearts and minds? Some felt annoyed at this outpouring, and their own natural dispositions were manifested. They said, This is only excitement; it is not the Holy Spirit, not showers from heaven of the latter rain. There were hearts full of unbelief, who did not drink in of the Spirit, but who had bitterness in their souls. 1888 Materials, 1478.1
On many occasions the Holy Spirit did work, but those who resisted the Spirit of God at Minneapolis were waiting for a chance to travel over the same ground again because their spirit was the same. Afterward, when they had evidence heaped upon evidence, some were convicted, but those who were not softened and subdued by the Holy Spirit’s working, put their own interpretation upon every manifestation of the grace of God, and they have lost much. They pronounced in their heart and soul and words that this manifestation of the Holy Spirit was fanaticism and delusion. They stood like a rock, the waves of mercy flowing upon and around them, but beaten back by their hard and wicked hearts, which resisted the Holy Spirit’s working. Had this been received, it would have made them wise unto salvation; holier men, prepared to do the work of God with sanctified ability. But all the universe of heaven witnessed the disgraceful treatment of Jesus Christ, represented by the Holy Spirit. Had Christ been before them, they would have treated him in a manner similar to that in which the Jews treated Christ. 1888 1478.2

An unwillingness to yield up preconceived opinions, and to accept this truth, lay at the foundation of a large share of the opposition manifested at Minneapolis against the Lord’s message through Brethren [E.J.] Waggoner and [A.T.] Jones. By exciting that opposition Satan succeeded in shutting away from our people, in a great measure, the SPECIAL POWER of the Holy Spirit that God longed to impart to them. The enemy prevented them from obtaining that efficiency which might have been theirs in carrying the truth to the world, as the apostles proclaimed it after the day of Pentecost. THE LIGHT THAT IS TO LIGHTEN THE WHOLE EARTH with its glory was resisted, and by the action of our own brethren has been in a great degree kept away from the world. 1SM 234.6
(Now I ask you, which light is the light that is to enlighten the whole world? What is the special power of the Holy Spirit that God longs to impart to us?
All of this is compared to the efficiency of the apostles that they received after the former rain. So, here it is clearly talking about the latter rain. The Adventists rejected the latter rain.)

It is quite possible that Elders Jones and Waggoner may be overthrown by the temptations of the enemy; but if they should be, this would not prove that they had had no message from God, or that the work that they had done was all a mistake. But should this happen, how many would take this position, and enter into a fatal delusion because they are not under the control of the Spirit of God. They walk in the sparks of their own kindling, and cannot distinguish between the fire they have kindled, and the light which God has given, and they walk in blindness as did the Jews. I know that this is the very position many would take if either of these men were to fall, and I pray that these men upon whom God has laid the burden of a solemn work, may be able to give the trumpet a certain sound, and honor God at every step and that their path at every step may grow brighter and brighter until the close of time. – Letter 24, 1892, p. 5 (To Elder Uriah Smith, September 19, 1892.) 3MR 201.2

Never before have I seen among our people such firm self – complacency and unwillingness to accept and acknowledge light as was manifested at Minneapolis. I have been shown that not one of the company who cherished the spirit manifested at that meeting would again have clear light to discern the preciousness of the truth sent them from heaven until they humbled their pride and confessed that they were not actuated by the Spirit of God, but that their minds and hearts were filled with prejudice. The Lord desired to come near to them, to bless them and heal them of their backslidings, but they would not hearken. They were actuated by the same spirit that inspired Korah, Dathan, and Abiram. Those men of Israel were determined to resist all evidence that would prove them to be wrong, and they went on and on in their course of disaffection until many were drawn away to unite with them. 1888 1067.1
(Just like Korah, Dathan and Abiram, the people rebelled right at the entrance of heavenly Canaan).

Not only Ellen White, but others knew this to be true as well:
ATJ
A. T. Jones
I received a letter a little while ago from Brother Starr in Australia. I will read two or three sentences because they come in well just at this place in our lessons: GCB/GCDB 1893, p. 377.1
“Sister White says that we have been in the time of the latter rain since the Minneapolis meeting.” GCB/GCDB 1893, p. 377.2

Well then the latter rain – the loud cry – according to the testimony and according to the Scripture, is “the teaching of righteousness,” and “according to righteousness,” too. Now brethren, when did that message of the righteousness of Christ, begin with us as a people? [One or two in the audience: “Three or four years ago.”] Which was it, three? or four? [Congregation: “Four.”] Yes, four. Where was it? [Congregation: “Minneapolis.”] What then did the brethren reject at Minneapolis? [Some in the Congregation: “The loud cry.”] What is that message of righteousness? The Testimony has told us what it is; the loud cry – the latter rain. Then what did the brethren in that fearful position in which they stood, reject at Minneapolis? They rejected the latter rain – the loud cry of the third angel’s message. GCB/GCDB 1893, p. 183.5

Not only this, but Ellen White told the congregation beforehand that Jesus wanted to pour His Spirit. This is a quote from the General Conference Bulletin of 1888:
“The exhortations of Sister White have been most cheering, as she has presented the love of Christ and His willingness to help. That He is waiting to pour His Spirit upon His people in abundant measure.” October 26, 1888

But she also stated the conditions for this outpouring. This is a quote from 19 October 1888:
“Appeals were made by brother Waggoner and sister White to the brethren, old and young, to seek God, put away all spirit of prejudice and opposition, and strive to come into the unity of faith in the bonds of brotherly love.”

As you can see, the Lord announced the latter rain. He started raining drops of the latter rain back then at that conference, but the people wouldn’t let Him pour it entirely over them.

Ellen White’s claims were not personal opinion, they were facts, truths inspired by the Holy Spirit. Jesus started moving things and working with power for His second coming multiple times since 1844, but the people rebelled and disobeyed every single time. Isn’t that what we learn from the Bible as well, didn’t the Jewish people do the same, wasn’t the Lord long-suffering towards them? God doesn’t want us to suffer for even one hour, our own choices make suffering necessary for us. We simply do not obey simple, kind, gentle words/thoughts/instructions that come to us through the Bible, prophets, Holy Ghost. Just like a disobedient child, we must in the end experience suffering that we might wake up and obey. This is especially true for us, the last generation. God has no choice but to let a horrible chain of events take place. The devastation, atrocities, human suffering, will make us cast aside our small differences and seek God with all of our hearts and tears for His latter rain, that we may be useful for Him to relieve the people of their pain and suffering and have the Lord’s peace. This is the last resort, God didn’t want that it would come to this, but we, as a people, have left Him no choice. What the church could have done in times of peace but didn’t do, it will have to do in the most discouraging circumstances.
This brings us to what Ellen White said of no more definite time:
KJV Revelation 10
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

This time, which the Angel declares with a solemn oath, is not the end of this world’s history, neither of probationary time, but of prophetic time, which should precede the advent of our Lord. That is, the people will not have another message upon definite time. After this period of time, reaching from 1842 to 1844, there can be no definite tracing of the prophetic time. The longest reckoning reaches to the autumn of 1844. Ms59-1900.24

The prophecies given in Daniel are unconditional, definite, independent of human action. The judgment was going to start in 1844 no matter what people would have done. Those times were completely fixed. But, after 1844, there are no more fixed times because the events were dependent on the human factor. The Sunday law, the judgment of the living, the second coming, they all depend on the fact that there needs to be a people ready for them:
The question is sometimes asked, “Why, if we have the truth, do we not see a greater manifestation of the Spirit of God?” God cannot reveal Himself till those who profess to be Christians are doers of His word in their private lives, till there is oneness with Christ, a sanctification of body, soul, and spirit. Then they will be fit temples for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. – Letter 139, 1898, pp. 2, 3, 12. (To A. T. Jones, December 16, 1898.) 2MR 27.1

2015 is not the first attempt to start the judgment of the living and to give way for the Sunday law. This also happened in A. T. Jones’ time. But the people rejected the righteousness by faith message. This 3,5 years interval that is now proclaimed to be between 2015 and 2019 could have taken place before. And even though it is announced as an antitype through Daisy, it still is not definite. Things can still go wrong and the date can be postponed even a few months.
We understand that there is a time limit to how long things can be postponed. To God, “a thousand years is as a day”. This applies to the millennial week. The 1000 years in heaven are a Sabbath and, accordingly, the Lord’s work on this earth cannot go on for more than 6000 years(the pioneers knew this very well, as it can be found in William Miller’s writings). From the writings of the Spirit of Prophecy we conclude that to be at most 2031. The Lord said that He will shorten the time for the sake of the elect. How much will He shorten it? Well, that depends on us, we are the ones that keep postponing His coming. That being said, Jesus is left with no choice but to slowly let loose the 4 winds to determine His people to seek Him with all their hearts. We may be inert, as a people, during times of peace, but when we will be surrounded by the tides of suffering and devastation, we will completely bow down. This is the last resort and it will work because the work needs to be finished before the 1000 years Sabbath in heaven.

We consider that by claiming that “the last days” in the New Testament are just a man’s point of view is contrary to: KJV 2 Timothy 3
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

The Holy Scriptures are to be accepted as an authoritative, infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the revealer of doctrines, and the test of experience.{GC vi, vii}

Absolutely every word is inspired and true. It is not necessarily understood, but it is truth nonetheless. The concept that some of the things are just personal opinion (both in the Bible and the SOP) comes from the schools of modern-day rabbis (theologians – by definition experts in religion). Please acknowledge that Jesus was kept away from the schools of the rabbis. Adventist educational institutions are anything but what a school should be as described in the writings of the SOP.
Every written word in the Bible and SOP is inspired. Ellen White’s writings are just as inspired as Peter’s, John’s, Paul’s etc. writings. Their writings were simple letters as well, they weren’t written with the purpose to be compiled in a book. The epistles were not given them in visions, they were simply 100% thoughts inspired by the Holy Spirit. When brother Arthur says that “there will be no more prophetic, definite time” is just Ellen White’s point of view, he unknowingly discredits the writings of the SOP. What she said was a message for the church. It was from Jesus, not from herself. It is true that the statement is misunderstood, but not in the way brother Arthur thinks. This belief of personal opinion cuts away at 90% of the instructions given through her. It leaves everything open for interpretation. This belief, so strongly rooted among pastors, is one of the reasons why people don’t get out of the cities, don’t make important changes in their lives. If it wasn’t given in a vision they think it’s just an advice, not mandatory, just personal opinion. This is how satan attacked the writings of the SOP. Why is this important? Because God gives light not only through direct inspiration but through other people. In our search for truth he not only inspires us directly while studying the Bible, but He also sends us to people that have the truths He wants to give us. Brother Arthur’s claim that we don’t need others to tell us what to do, that we can study and find out for ourselves can be very gravely interpreted. We have met many that wouldn’t give up their “findings” from their personal study because they thought they could find out everything on their own. That is not how heaven works, God gives instructions to angels which pass them on to others and so on. The same principles apply to us, God is the same. He will give some a special truth, but He won’t give it directly to all, He will direct the others to hear those truths from His messengers. In the writings of the SOP, we have William Miller’s dream, of a case with many precious jewels representing truths. Please re-read it and understand that God gives to each some truths and then He puts us in contact with each other to bring together those truths. To be able to build the bigger picture we must deny our pride and leave our cherished, but erroneous ideas, behind. Personal study is necessary, but not 100% safe. Truth is established in the mouths of 2 or 3 witnesses. Personal study is just one witness.
The Bible says:
KJV Proverbs 11
14 Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counselors there is safety.
The writings of the SOP state that God will not give a special truth to just one individual.
All of this implies that we compare our findings with others’. This was shown to Daisy as well, that all of us will also study as groups in the mountains and share our findings.
We must learn to act as a group, harmoniously, and the Bible foretold of the remnant that they will speak often:
KJV Malachi 3
16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

In conclusion, people need the writings of the SOP. Brother Arthur’s emphasis on studying the Bible is incomplete, God gave important understanding through Ellen White and some of it won’t be given to any Adventist directly, all will be directed to read the SOP to find it out. This was confirmed in Daisy’s dreams as well, in multiple dreams, she is shown that the only books the remnant had were the Bible, the writings of the SOP and the old hymnal book. She is shown the remnant studying the writings of the SOP.
KJV Isaiah 8
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

The testimony is the Spirit of Prophecy. In our case not only EG’s writings but the instructions given through Daisy as well. The Bible sends us to itself and the prophets as well. They both have the same Author (something we would like to mention. Ellen White and the pioneers considered the SOP to be the gift of the Holy Spirit, not the writings of it. They always referred to EG’s writings as “the writings of the SOP” or “the counsels of the SOP” etc. but not as the writings being the SOP itself. That would mean that the Bible is the SOP as well. The SOP is the gift manifested in a living prophet. The remnant has the testimony of Jesus, the SOP manifested through a living prophet)
KJV 2 Peter 1
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

Brother Arthur mentions quotes from “Counsels to writers and editors” when it comes to new light and that the church’s beliefs are not infallible (but the landmarks are fixed, they cannot be moved). Instituto Madison has been sharing those chapters for years, they are indeed very important. We would like to point out that this is talking about church doctrines, not the writings of the SOP. Church cherished doctrines can be erroneous, but the SOP, the testimony of Jesus is truth.

The people need to be encouraged to believe the prophets:
KJV 2 Chronicles 20
20 And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

When God raised a prophet in Israel, it was made known to the people.
KJV 1 Samuel 3
Samuel Grows in Favor
19 And Samuel grew, and the LORD was with him, and did let none of his words fall to the ground.
20 And all Israel from Dan even to Beer-sheba knew that Samuel was established to be a prophet of the LORD.

KJV 2 Kings 5
8 And it was so, when Elisha the man of God had heard that the king of Israel had rent his clothes, that he sent to the king, saying, Wherefore hast thou rent thy clothes? let him come now to me, and he shall know that there is a prophet in Israel.

Prophecy always was pivotal:

KJV Psalms 74
9 We see not our signs: there is no more any prophet: neither is there among us any that knoweth how long.

KJV Amos 3
6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
8 The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?

The Lord is giving messages to His people, through the instruments He has chosen, and He would have all heed the admonitions and warnings He sends. 4BC 1184

KJV Matthew 10
41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward.

If you truly believe that Daisy is a prophet, please make it known. Time is short, the wise shall understand. There are many practical instructions given through Daisy for our time. There are also very, very important promises for us that are not found in EG’s writings (for example the Lord reveals that at some point He will pour the water of life on our crops. That will make them grow very fast and healthy. This promise is very important for those that are struggling to get out of the cities. Many don’t have resources to engage in efficient agriculture and many will get out in the nick of time. This promise will give them courage to get out. If they believe it they will have peace knowing that they will be looked after). Some of the friends that have not abandoned you yet, some of the family members, will abandon you after announcing that there is a prophet in Israel, the devil will roar in fury, but the Lord will keep you in His loving hand. If there is one pattern that we have noticed among all the famous Adventists that listen to Daisy is that they all hold back. None acknowledge officially that there is a prophet in Israel, even though they believe it. David Gates made a few statements about Daisy in an interview, that everything is according to the Bible for now, but nothing concrete, nothing official. The same holding back took place during EG’s day. But the people will know and it will give them courage. The Lord testifies of the present truth through His living prophet, important instructions for us, admonitions, exhortations, warnings. That is the testimony of Jesus, His interaction with His church through the SOP. Jesus is now speaking through His feeble instrument. Please direct the people to Jesus, to what He is telling us, to the testimonies.
Some other things for you to study and consider:
– the judgment of the living starts with the leaders of the church. It was about to start multiple times after 1844, but just like in 1888, the human factor changed things. The Lord had to wait for another generation, just like He had to do with Israel at the border of Canaan. This time the 6000 years are almost up and there is no more time left for another generation. The Lord revealed through Daisy that His remnant (from the Adventist body) is very small, but that they are enough for Him to complete His work.

-the sealing of the remnant does not depend on the Sunday law. God does not need the work of the devil to seal His people. The sealing began since Ellen White’a time. The sealing has to do with character development. Enoh and many others were sealed because they developed a perfect character. The Sunday law will just be the last trial for Adventists, it will not change character overnight.

– The Lord showed not only David Gates that the judgment of the living started in 2015, but to the founder here at Instituto Madison and others that we are in contact with, as well. The judgment of the living is a process that will end with the Sunday law. Next year, according to the type, the Sunday law is to be passed in America, but it can take years (possibly 3.5 years) for it to be passed all over the world (it was actually revealed through Daisy in a recent dream that the Sunday law will not be passed all over the world in such a short time, that it is a process that will take some time). Judgment will end for each and every one at different times, it will end when the Sunday law will force them (probably economically) to take a decision of either to follow or not to follow the Lord.
-it is possible that the latter rain will be at the same time for the entire world because it needs to be on a day of Pentecost (this was revealed through Daisy and others as well, God has a calendar, He follows it). This implies that the judgment of the visible church needs to end in the entire world before the latter rain can be poured on us. That means that the second coming can be very near the end of the 6000 years. We would have to resist for years in the mountains without any earthly support. We need to be completely economically independent. (an emphasis on physical preparation is also placed in some of Daisy’s dreams up to the point that those that do not prepare physically will be forced to sign the decree due to extreme hunger, just as the Egyptians sold themselves to Pharaoh when the 7 skinny cows). We need to build the arks, just like Noah did. He and his family didn’t escape the flood only through spiritual preparation, but he built the ark, stocked up food, made proper living conditions. Every use of his hammer was a testimony for the others. Just the same, we give a strong testimony to our brothers and sisters when we prepare for what is coming.
Without these arks being finished the Lord cannot let the Sunday law pass. That would mean that there would be no people prepared to handle the crisis of not being able to buy or sell. We must hasten His coming by doing our part.
-the loud cry has to parts: the loud cry in the church and the loud cry in the world. The first is also called the midnight cry.
KJV Matthew 25
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
It started with the pioneers coming out of the fallen churches and it will end with the Adventists coming out of the Omega of apostasy and the invisible church coming out of Babylon.

God has been discovering many more precious rays of light. If you are interested and if God will allow us time, we will share them with you.

We recommend you to read these writings which are also very important to understand for the last generation, as Malachi 4:4 says.

http://elultimoclamor.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Holy_History_with_the_Commandments_Statutes_and_Judgments.pdf

http://elultimoclamor.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Exposing_the_Skeleton_in_the_SDA_Closet_of_1888.pdf

http://elultimoclamor.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/New-descovery.pdf

Para el remanente

God bless you and lead you in everything!

Laodicea, final church?

Those who have an opportunity to hear the truth, and yet take no pains to hear or understand it, thinking that if they do not hear, they will not be ACCOUNTABLE, will be judged guilty before God the same as if they had heard and rejected. There will be no excuse for those who choose to go in error when they might understand what is truth. (RH 04-25-93; pr:10)

Dear Reader,
Are the abominations for which we are to sigh and cry mere minor issues? We are told that our very sealing is dependent upon whether or not we sigh and cry for ALL the abominations that be done in the church. Is that a serious issue? Ask yourself: Do my detractors sigh and cry for ALL the abominations in the church? Are the serious abominations for which we are to sigh and cry, mere minor errors? Do they require exaggeration, or are they sufficiently abhorrant to God, that according to Ellen White and God, they warrant another LITERAL fulfillment of Ezekiel 9 BEGINNING AT HIS SANCTUARY, the professing Seventh-day Adventist church?

“Maranatha”
“Mark this point with care: Those who receive the pure mark of truth, wrought in them by the power of the Holy Ghost, represented by a mark by the man in linen, are those ‘that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done’ in the church.” {Mar 240.1}

“The class who do not feel grieved over their own spiritual declension, nor mourn over the sins of others, will be left without the seal of God.” . . . {Mar 240.2}

Will those who define the serious apostasies as mere minor errors receive the seal of God? Will the blood of those they thus leaven with error be upon their backs?

“His [Christ’s] days were passed in ministry to the crowds that pressed upon Him, and in unveiling the treacherous sophistry of the rabbis…THOUGHTS FROM THE MOUNT OF BLESSING: pg. 102..
“Manuscript Releases volume 3”
“Unaccustomed to accept God’s Word exactly as it reads, or to allow it to be its own interpreter, they, the priests and instructors of the people read it in the light of their maxims and traditions. So long had they neglected to study and contemplate the Bible, that its pages were to them a mystery. They turned with aversion from the truth of God to the traditions of men.” 3MR:432.
” The Paulson Collection of Ellen G. White Letters”
“There seems to be a burning desire to get up something fictitious and bring it in as new light. Thus men try to weave into the web as important truths a tissue of lies. This fanciful mixture of food that is being prepared for the flock will cause spiritual consumption, decline and death. When those who profess to believe present truth come to their senses, when they accept the Word of the living God just as it reads, and do not try to wrest the Scriptures, then they will build their house upon the eternal Rock, even Christ Jesus.” Paulson:423.
” Manuscript Releases volume 7″
“Those who engage in the work of God’s cause to-day will meet just such trials as Paul endured in his work. By the same boastful and deceptive work Satan will seek to draw converts from the faith. Theories will be brought in that will not be wise for us to handle. Satan is a cunning worker, and he will bring in subtle fallacies to darken and confuse the mind and root out the doctrines of salvation. Those who do not accept the Word of God just as it reads, will be snared in his trap. To-day we need to speak the truth with holy boldness. The testimony borne to the early church by the Lord’s messenger, His people are to hear in this time: “Though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed” (Gal. 1:8).” 7MR:358.

Here is one of the more serious cherished errors of the SDA church:

“Laodicea is the last and final church, so it will not be ‘spewed out’ but rather will go glorious through to the kingdom.”

FACT: This is the rallying cry of the majority of SDA’s and the belief on which they pin all their hopes and aspirations. But I challenge anyone, would you give me a “Thus saith the Lord,” an “It is written” for this expectation? I challenge you that no such statement exits for two very good reasons, which I will substantiate for you. 1. Laodicea, despite what the SDA Bible commentary may say, is not God’s final church [again, no inspired backing for that concept]; and 2. Laodicea is not God’s true church of the last days. First let us look at the issue of Laodicea being the 7th and final church. We read:

“The messages given to the churches in Asia, portray the state of things existing in the churches of the religious world today. The names of the churches are symbolic of the Christian church in different periods of the Christian era; the number of the churches––seven––indicates completeness and is symbolic of the fact that the messages extend to the end of time, and are enforced today; while the figures used are symbolic of the state of God’s professed people––the wheat developing among the tares; truth standing on its own eternal basis in contrast with error.” MS: 81, 1900, paragraph 56

“Manuscript releases volume 1”
“I wish to emphasize the fact, that the churches to which John was told to send the instruction given him represent all the churches in our world, and that this revelation to him is to be studied and believed and preached by the Seventh-day Adventist Church today.” 1MR: 372.
“Acts of the apostles”
“The names of the seven churches are symbolic of the church in different periods of the Christian era. The number seven indicates completeness, and is symbolic of the fact that the messages extend to the end of time, while the symbols used reveal the condition of the church at different periods in the history of the world.” AA: 585.

In complete harmony with the above quotes that the messages to the seven churches “portray the state of things existing in the religious world today”, nowhere in the SOP will you find that Philadelphia ended in 1844 and only Laodicea exists today. That is solely an invention of the editorial staff or some other insider of the SDA church, as we shall see. On the contrary we read:

“The Spirit of Prophecy Volume Four”
“After the passing of the time of expectation in 1844, Adventists still believed the Saviour’s coming to be very near; they held that they had reached an important crisis, and that the work of Christ as man’s intercessor before God had ceased…But clearer light came with the investigation of the sanctuary question. Now was seen the application of those words of Christ in the Revelation, addressed to the church at this very time: ‘These things saith He that is holy, He that is true, He that hath the key of David, He that openeth and no man shutteth, and shutteth and no man openeth; I know thy works; behold I have before thee an open door, and no man can shut it.” (Rev. 3:7,8 quoted––a direct reference to the church of Philadelphia.) 4SP: 268

Fifteen years after 1844, we read this admonition to the church in 1859: “I was shown that the testimony to the Laodiceans applies to God’s people at the present time..” (“Testimonies for the church volume 1,page 186). You realize of course that there was no such thing as a “Seventh-day Adventist” until the period of 1860-1863.
“Testimonies for the church volume 1”
“Up to the year 1860 there had been no legal or church organization among the Sabbathkeeping Adventists. They had not even adopted a name. They spoke of themselves as the ‘Scattered Flock’, The ‘Little Remnant’, or some variation of such expressions.” 1T: 715
So where and what was the church from the period of 1844-1859? The only sensible answer, as we shall see, is that just as both cities existed simultaneously during John the Revelator’s day, both conditions are obviously going on simultaneously until Christ’s 2nd coming. That Philadelphia continues till the 2nd coming is clearly obvious when we simply compare the description of the 144,000 given in Rev. 14:1:
“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads”
, the description of Philadelphia in Rev. 3:
7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.”
(the 144,000 according to Rev. 14:1 previously mentioned) , and the way E.G. White puts them both together in EW: 15 where we read: “The 144,000 were all sealed and perfectly united. On their foreheads was written, God, New Jerusalem, and a glorious star containing Jesus’ new name.”

“Testimonies to Ministers and Gospel Workers”
Again we read: “The same angel who visited Sodom is sounding the note of warning, Escape for thy life. The bottles of God’s wrath cannot be poured out to destroy the wicked and their works until all the people of God have been judged, and the cases of the living as well as the dead are decided. And even after the saints are sealed with the seal of the living God, His elect will have trials individually…The indelible mark of God is upon them. God can plead that His own name is written there. The Lord has shut them in. Their destination is inscribed––‘GOD, NEW JERUSALEM.’ They are God’s property, His possession.” TM: 446.

It can clearly be seen from the quotes above that the 144000 represent Philadelphia which will be sealed in the end, will have the name of God and New Jerusalem.

Further, we have an example of both the Laodicean and the Philadelphian condition described as we read these words of inspiration. First we will see the Laodicean condition described:
“Acts of the apostles”
“The church was defective and in need of stern reproof and chastisement, and John was inspired to record messages of warning and entreaty to those who, losing sight of the fundamental principles should imperil their hope of salvation. But always the words of rebuke that God finds it necessary to send are spoken in tender love and with the promise of peace to every penitent believer. ‘Behold I stand at the door, and knock,’ the Lord declares; ‘If any man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Revelation 3: 20. (And immediately following we see the Philadelphia condition.)”And for those who in the midst of conflict should maintain their faith in God, the prophet was given the words of commendation and promise: ‘I know thy works..” (Revelation 3: verses 8, 10, 2, 11 quoted.) AA: 587-588.

And again we read:
“The great controversy”
“Just before us is ‘the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.’ Revelation 3:10. All whose faith is not firmly established upon the word of God will be deceived and overcome… ‘Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I will also keep thee’ (attributed to Philadelphia) is the Saviour’s promise. He would sooner send every angel out of heaven to protect His people than leave one soul that trusts in Him to be overcome by Satan.” GC: 560.

It is a mystery why the SDA church fixated on the Laodicean condition of 1859 when in Nov. 2, 1886 the warning to the Sardis church was applicable to the SDA church at that time. RH: 11/2/86, Ellen White :
” Review and Herald”
“The warning to the Sardis church is applicable at this time: “I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.” And to us also the promise is extended, “Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments, and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment, and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels.” RH November 2, 1886, par. 7

And in (Review and Herald) RH: 2/25/02 the Ephesus condition was “applicable to the Seventh-day Adventist churches in their present condition”:
“Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.” RH February 25, 1902, par. 1
I am instructed to say that these words are applicable to Seventh – day Adventist churches in their present condition. The love of God has been lost, and this means the absence of love for one another. Self, self, self, is cherished, and is striving for the supremacy. How long is this to continue? Unless there is a reconversion, there will soon be such a lack of godliness that the Church will be represented by the barren fig tree. ”

And these (Sardis and Ephesus) conditions are re-iterated as applying to “us as a people” in (Manuscript) MS: 18, 1903:
“The messages that God gave to the churches of Ephesus and Sardis are applicable to those who in this age have had great light but have not opened the door of the heart to the knock of Christ. The Lord has shown plainly that He has a controversy with His people. The fires that have lately raged in New York and other cities were no accident. It was the hand of omnipotent power. The Spirit of God is withdrawing from the world because the warnings of heaven have not been heeded. We need to beware; for a similar condition of things is coming in amongst us as a people. Ms18-1903.6”

Will the 144,000 be Laodiceans or Philadelphians? Most SDA’s believe and teach that the Laodicean condition is a requirement, when it is a choice! IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO BE A LAODICEAN ANY MORE THAN IT IS NECESSARY TO BE A SINNER! Was Ellen G. White ever a Laodicean? God’s last and final TRUE church on this earth will be those who ‘preserve the faith in it’s purity’ (Testimonies for the church volume 5, 5T: 210); those who will ‘heed the counsel of the True Witness TO the Laodiceans and will exalt the standard and pour forth the straight truth’ [EW: 270]; those who will come out of apostate Laodicea and join the church of Philadelphia––God’s true remnant church! [EW:261]:
“Early Writings”.
“I saw that God has honest children among the nominal Adventists and the fallen churches, and before the plagues shall be poured out, ministers and people will be called out from these churches and will gladly receive the truth. Satan knows this; and before the loud cry of the third angel is given, he raises an excitement in these religious bodies, that those who have rejected the truth may think that God is with them. He hopes to deceive the honest and lead them to think that God is still working for the churches. But the light will shine, and all who are honest will leave the fallen churches, and take their stand with the remnant. EW 261.1” (To make things clear, the first edition of this testimony from “Early Writings” was published in 1851.)
Also, a stern warning for those of you who are honestly looking to serve God : “Satan knows this; and before the loud cry of the third angel is given, he raises an excitement in these religious bodies, that those who have rejected the truth may think that God is with them. He hopes to deceive the honest and lead them to think that God is still working for the churches. But the light will shine, and all who are honest will leave the fallen churches, and take their stand with the remnant.” Basically Satan will give you missionary work and try to make it seem that it is from God. God has plans for each and every one of us, we need to let Him lead us according to His plan, let Him do His good deeds through us because our own good deeds are like filthy rags. The devil hopes to keep you so busy that you will not have time to pray, to research all of these things.

In an article published in THE ADVENT REVIEW in September, 1850 by the Publishing Committee under the direction of James White, he stated for the record, just what their position was in regard to the 144,000 and the true church of the last days. As you will see, they wrote: “Now just as sure as the Philadelphia church is the true church of the last days, just so sure the 144,000 are sealed, just before the coming of the Lord.” And nowhere will you ever find that E.G. White ever countermanded this proclamation, although you will find that it was countermanded by the editorial staff of the SDA Bible Commentary! Whom do you choose to believe and follow?

Divine inspiration tells us “The state of the Church represented by the foolish virgins, is also spoken of as the Laodicean state.
“Review and Herald”, RH: 8/19/1890 :
“I am often referred to the parable of the ten virgins, five of whom were wise, and five foolish. This parable has been and will be fulfilled to the very letter, for it has a special application to this time, and, like the third angel’s message, has been fulfilled and will continue to be present truth till the close of time.

The state of the Church represented by the foolish virgins, is also spoken of as the Laodicean state. ”

That being the case, how can anyone continue to maintain that “Laodicea..will go through..” when not one of the foolish virgins made it into the kingdom?
Lukewarm and/or Cold Apostate Laodicea no Better Than The Fallen Churches

“If the church becomes lukewarm [let alone apostate], it does not stand in favor with God any more than do the churches that are represented as having fallen and become the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit and the cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Those who have had opportunities to hear and receive the truth, and who have united with the Seventh-day Adventist church, calling themselves the commandment keeping people of God, and yet possess no more vitality and consecration to God than do the nominal churches, will receive the plagues of God just as verily as the churches who oppose the law of God. Only those that are sanctified through the truth will compose the royal family in the heavenly mansions Christ has gone to prepare for those that love him and keep his commandments.” E.G. White, Letter 35, January 1, 1898

Daisy plânge prea mult

ACUZAȚIE
Daisy plânge prea mult. Un profet al lui Dumnezeu nu plânge atât.

RĂSPUNS
Plânsul este o ralitate aproape zilnică pentru un profet al lui Dumnezeu, pentru că atunci când Dumnezeu ridică un profet, el are două lucrări de făcut: A CONSOLA ȘI A CORECTA
“Scrieri timpurii, p. 78
Recomand lui cititorului amabil cuvântul lui Dumnezeu ca o regulă de credință și practică. Prin acest Cuvânt trebuie să fim judecați. ÎN EL DUMNEZEU A PROMIS A DA VIZIUNI ÎN “ZILE DE PE URMĂ”, NU PENTRU A AVEA UN NOU STANDARD DE CREDINȚĂ, CI PENTRU A MÂNGÂIA PE POPORUL SĂU ȘI PENTRU A CORECTA PE CEI CE SE DEPĂRTEAZĂ DE ADEVĂRURILE BIBLICE. Acesta a fost modul în care Dumnezeu a lucrat cu Petru când urma să-l trimită să predice neamurilor. (Fapte 10)
Pentru cei care circulă această mică lucrare, vreau să spun că este destinată numai pentru cei sinceri și nu pentru cei care ar dori să ridiculizeze lucrurile Duhului lui Dumnezeu “.

În lumina acestui citat vom vedea mai jos că un adevărat PROFET are o viață de sacrificiu, de suferință constantă pentru un popor rebel și de multe ori plânge.

Mai mult, TOATĂ rămășița credincioasă plânge adesea pentru poporul răzvrătit.
Ezek.9:4>>Și DOMNUL i-a spus: Du-te prin mijlocul cetății, prin mijlocul Ierusalimului și pune un semn pe frunțile oamenilor care suspină și care strigă (plâng) din cauza tuturor urâciunilor care sunt făcute în mijlocul lui.

DOVEZI BIBLICE

Ieremia a plâns
Ieremia 9:1>>De s-ar preface în ape, capul meu, și o fântână de lacrimi, ochii mei, ca să plâng zi și noapte pentru cei uciși ai fiicei poporului meu!
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Ier.9:18>>…și să înalțe un bocet pentru noi, ca din ochii noștri să curgă lacrimi și din pleoapele noastre să țâșnească ape.
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Ier.13:17>>Dar dacă nu veți asculta aceasta, sufletul meu va plânge în locuri tainice pentru mândria voastră; și ochiul meu va plânge amar și îi vor curge lacrimi, pentru că turma DOMNULUI este dusă în captivitate.
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Ier.14:17>>De aceea tu să le spui acest cuvânt: Ochii mei să curgă cu lacrimi noapte și zi și să nu înceteze, pentru că fiica fecioară a poporului meu este zdrobită cu o mare spărtură, cu o lovitură foarte apăsătoare.
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Ier:31:16>>Astfel spune DOMNUL: Oprește-ți vocea de la plânset și ochii tăi de la lacrimi, pentru că lucrarea ta va fi răsplătită, spune DOMNUL; și ei se vor întoarce înapoi din țara dușmanului.
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Plângeri 2:11>> OCHII MEI SE SFÂRȘESC CU LACRIMI, adâncurile mele se tulbură, ficatul meu este turnat pe pământ din cauza nimicirii fiicei poporului meu; căci copiii și sugarii leșină pe străzile cetății.
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Plângeri 2:18>>Inima lor a strigat către DOMNUL: Zid al fiicei Sionului, să curgă lacrimi ca un râu, zi și noapte; să nu îți dea odihnă, să nu înceteze lumina ochiului tău.

Adevărații adventiști plâng
Psalm.126:5, 6>> Cei ce seamănă cu lacrimi vor secera cu bucurie.
Cel ce merge înainte plângând, purtând sămânță prețioasă, se va întoarce fără îndoială cu bucurie, aducându-și snopii.

Cei sigilați plâng
Ezech.9:4>>Și DOMNUL i-a spus: Du-te prin mijlocul cetății, prin mijlocul Ierusalimului și pune un semn pe frunțile oamenilor care suspină și care strigă (plâng) din cauza tuturor urâciunilor care sunt făcute în mijlocul lui.

Isus a plâns
Ioan 11:35>>Isus plângea
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Luca19:41>> Și când s-a apropiat, a privit cetatea și a plâns din cauza ei,

Pavel a plâns
2Cor.2:4>>Fiindcă v-am scris din mult necaz și chin al inimii, cu multe lacrimi; nu ca să fiți mâhniți, ci ca să știți dragostea pe care o am din abundență pentru voi.
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Fapte 20:19>>Servind pe Domnul cu toată umilința minții și cu multe lacrimi și ispite, care mi s-au întâmplat prin comploturile iudeilor;
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Fapte 20:31>>Vegheați așadar și amintiți-vă, că timp de trei ani nu am încetat să vă avertizez CU LACRIMI, NOAPTE ȘI ZI, pe fiecare.

DOVEZI DIN ELLEN WHITE
“Testimonies for the church volume 5”
Se prea poate că distrugătorii se antrenează deja sub mâna lui Satan și așteaptă doar plecarea câtorva mai mulți purtători de stindard pentru a le lua locurile, și cu vocea proorocului mincinos să strige: “Pace, pace”, când Domnul nu a vorbit pacea. Rareori plâng, dar acum îmi găsesc ochii orbiți de lacrimi; ele cad pe hârtia mea pe măsură ce scriu. 5T 77.1

“Selected messages book 3”
Altă dată mi s-a arătat o clădire mare care era construită pe locul pe care a fost construit după aceea Sanatoriul din Battle Creek. Frații s-au confruntat cu o mare încurcătură cu privire la cine ar trebui să se ocupe de lucrare. Am plâns foarte mult. Unul cu autoritate s-a ridicat între noi și a spus: “Încă nu sunteți gata să investiți mijloacele în clădirea respectivă sau să planificați gestionarea viitoare a acesteia”. 3SM 55.3
“The sanctified life”
Daniel nu-și proclamă propria fidelitate înaintea Domnului. În loc să pretindă că este pur și sfânt, acest profet onorat se identifică cu umilință cu adevărații păcătoși ai lui Israel. Înțelepciunea pe care Dumnezeu i-o dăduse era pe atât de superioară înțelepciunii marilor oameni ai lumii, precum lumina soarelui strălucind în cer la amiază este mai strălucitoare decât cea mai slabă stea. Totuși, gândiți-vă la rugăciunea de pe buzele acestui om atît de favorizat de cer. Cu umilință profundă, cu lacrimi și inimă sfâșiată, el pledează pentru el și pentru poporul său. El își deschide sufletul înaintea lui Dumnezeu, mărturisind propria lui nevrednicie și recunoscând măreția și maiestatea Domnului. SL 46.2

“Testimonies for the church volume three”
Dumnezeu cere ca cei care slujesc în lucrurile sacre să fie oameni care să fie geloși pentru cauza Lui. Povara muncii lor ar trebui să fie mântuirea sufletelor. Frate R, nu ai simțit cum spune profetul Ioel: “Preoții, slujitorii Domnului, să plângă între pridvor și altar și să zică ‘Cruță poporul Tău, o Doamne, și nu da moștenirea Ta reproșului.'” “Cei ce seamănă în lacrimi vor culege în bucurie. Cel ce iese și plânge, având sămânță prețioasă, se va întoarce, fără îndoială, cu bucurie și va aduce snopii săi cu el.” 3T 234.1
“Christ Triumphant”
La priveliștea fermecătoare, mulțimea se unește cu fervoare reînnoită în strigătele lor de laudă … Ei presupun că Cristos este acum gata să ia tronul lui David și să domnească ca prinț temporal. Ochii lor se întorc spre El pentru a vedea cum este impresionat de scena respectivă. Dar iată, Fiul omului este în lacrimi! CTr 254,2
Pe măsură ce ochii lui Cristos privesc templul, care atât de curând urma să fie pustiit, iar perdeaua dintre Sfânta si Sfânta Sfintelor urma a fi sfâșiată atunci când actul final al evreilor urma a desăvârși moartea Sa, a plâns asupra orașului neascultător …
“Counsels for the church”
Ai simțit o povară pentru cel pe care l-ai văzut aventurându-se pe căile interzise? L-ai avertizat cu amabilitate? Ai plâns pentru el și te-ai rugat pentru el și cu el? Ai arătat prin cuvinte de tandrețe și fapte bune că îl iubești și vrei să-l salvezi? CCh 255,1
“From eternity past”
Desconsiderația îngâmfată a lui Saul față de voința lui Dumnezeu a demonstrat că nu putea fi investit cu putere regală ca locțiitor al Domnului. În timp ce Saul și armata lui mărșăluiau acasă în bucuria victoriei, în casa lui Samuel era neliniște. El a primit un mesaj de la Domnul: “Mă pocăiesc că am pus pe Saul ca împărat; căci s-a abătut de la a Mă urma și nu a împlinit poruncile Mele.” Profetul a plâns și s-a rugat toată noaptea pentru o inversare a sentinței teribile. EP 457.1

Viziunile intre 2 si 4 noaptea sunt de la diavol

ACUZATIE:
Victor spune ca viziunile intre 2 si 4 noaptea sunt de la diavol.
RASPUNS:
Un search in baza de date EGW in engleza ne arata ca nu exista nici o afirmatie inspirata care sa spuna ca viziunile de noapte intre 2 si 4 noaptea sunt DOAR de la diavol. Asadar afirmatia lui Victor nu este bazata pe un STA SCRIS.
Daca ar fi fost astfel, atunci Salvatorul nostru Isus Cristos ar fi informat biserica primara sau cel putin pe E White.

DOVEZI BIBLICE
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Geneza 46:2 Şi Dumnezeu i-a vorbit lui Israel în VIZIUNILE NOPȚII şi a spus: Iacob, Iacob. Iar el a spus: Iată-mă.
Daniel 2: 19 Atunci taina i-a fost revelată lui Daniel într-o VIZIUNE DE NOAPTE . Apoi Daniel a binecuvântat pe Dumnezeul cerului.
Daniel 7: 2 Daniel a vorbit și a spus: Am văzut ÎN VIZIUNEA MEA ÎN NOAPTE și, iată, cele patru vânturi ale cerului s-au luptat pe marea cea mare.

Daniel 7: 13 Am văzut ÎN VIZIUNILE NOPȚII și, iată, unul ca Fiul omului a venit cu norii cerului și a venit la Bătrânul de zile și l-au adus aproape, înaintea lui.

Fapte 16: 9 Și O VIZIUNE I-A APĂRUT ÎN NOAPTE lui Pavel; un anumit bărbat din Macedonia stătea în picioare, chemându-l și spunând: Vino în Macedonia și ajută-ne.

Fapte 27:23,24 Fiindcă AZI NOAPTE A STAT ÎN PICIOARE LÂNGĂ MINE ÎNGERUL DUMNEZEULUI AL CĂRUIA SUNT și căruia îi servesc, spunând: Nu te teme, Pavele, tu trebuie să fii adus în fața Cezarului; și iată, Dumnezeu ți-a dăruit pe toți care călătoresc cu tine

Fapte 18: 9 Atunci Domnul i-a spus lui Pavel, ÎN TIMPUL NOPȚII, PRINTR-O VIZIUNE: Nu te teme, dimpotrivă, vorbește și nu tăcea;

Fapte 23:11 Iar NOAPTEA URMĂTOARE, DOMNUL A STAT LÂNGĂ EL în picioare și a spus: Pavele, îndrăznește; fiindcă așa cum ai adeverit despre mine în Ierusalim, așa trebuie să aduci mărturie și la Roma

Iov 33:14-16 Căci Dumnezeu vorbește o dată, da, de două ori, totuși omul nu ia seama. ÎNTR-UN VIS, ÎNTR-O VIZIUNE A NOPȚII, când somn adânc cade peste oameni, în dormiri în pat, Atunci el deschide urechile oamenilor și sigilează instruirea lor.

Gen 20: 3 Dar Dumnezeu a venit la Abimelec ÎNTR-UN VIS, NOAPTEA, şi i-a spus: Iată, eşti un om mort, din cauza femeii pe care ai luat-o, pentru că ea este soţia unui bărbat.

1Imparati 3:5 La Gabaon, DOMNUL I-A APĂRUT LUI SOLOMON ÎNTR-UN VIS NOAPTEA ; şi Dumnezeu a spus: Cere ce doreşti să îţi dau.
DOVEZI DIN ELLEN WHITE
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“Selected messages book 3”
M-am trezit joi dimineața devreme, cam la ora două și scriam de zor despre Adevarata Viță, când am simțit o prezență în camera mea, așa cum am mai simțit de multe ori înainte, și mi-am pierdut toată amintirea despre ce scriam. Păream să fiu în prezența lui Isus. El mi-a comunicat acel lucru în care trebuia să fiu instruită. Totul era atât de simplu încât nu puteam înțelege greșit. 3SM 36.1

“Selected Messages Book 1”
“Când m-am dus în Colorado, am fost atât de împovărată pentru tine încât, în slăbiciunea mea, am scris multe pagini pentru a fi citite la întâlnirea ta de tabără: Slăbită și tremurândă, m-am sculat la ora trei dimineața ca să-ți scriu. Dumnezeu vorbea prin lut. Ai putea spune ca era vorba doar de o scrisoare. Da, era o scrisoare, dar a fost îndemnată de Duhul lui Dumnezeu să aducă înaintea minților voastre lucruri care mi-au fost arătate. În scrisorile pe care le scriu, în mărturiile pe care le dau, vă prezint ceea ce mi-a prezentat Domnul. Nu scriu un articol în ziar, care exprimă propriile mele idei. Ele sunt ceea ce Dumnezeu a deschis înaintea mea în viziune – razele prețioase de lumină strălucind de la tron ​​… 1SM 27.2

“Testimonies on sexual behavior, adultery and divorce”
Dacă aș avea aici jurnalul meu, scris în timpul ultimei mele călătorii în Danemarca, Norvegia și Suedia, aș putea să vă citesc câteva lucruri. Într-o viziune a nopții, treceam prin camerele instituției și am văzut chiar scenele care au avut loc acolo, în această purtare necuviincioasă, bărbați cu femei și femei cu bărbați. Sufletul meu era profund tulburat și m-am sculat și am scris aceste lucruri la ora unu dimineața … TSB 149.1

“Ellen G. White and her critics”
Trei pagini mai departe, în povestea ei, se referă la o viziune de noapte astfel: “În dimineața zilei de 23 octombrie 1879, în jurul orei două, Duhul Domnului a venit asupra mea și am văzut scene în judecata care vine.” – Life Sketches of Ellen G. White, 241. EGWC 43.5

“Christian service”
În dimineața zilei de 23 octombrie 1879, în jurul orei două, Duhul Domnului a venit asupra mea și am văzut scene în judecata care vine. Chs 87.3

“Colporteur ministry”
Am fost trezită la ora unu, două sau trei dimineața, cu un anumit punct impresionat asupra minții mele, ca și cum ar fi fost vorbit de vocea lui Dumnezeu … CM 128.1
Mi-a fost arătat … că trebuie să mă dedic să scriu lucrurile importante pentru volumul 4 [Tragedia Veacurilor]; – Scrisoarea 1, 1890.
“Selected Messages book two”
În această dimineață nu puteam să dorm după DUPĂ ORA 2. ÎN TIMPUL VIZIUNII DE NOAPTE m-am văzut într-o întâlnire. Rugam mai multe familii să accepte instrucțiunile stabilite de Dumnezeu și să părăsească orașele pentru a-și salva copiii. Unii dintre ei au lăsat timpul să treacă fără să facă o determinare. 2SM 354.1

“Patriarchs and Prophets”
Dar o mână divină urma să deschidă ușile închisorii. Regele Egiptului A AVUT ÎNTR-O SINGURĂ NOAPTE DOUĂ VISE care, aparent, indicau același eveniment și păreau să anunțe o mare calamitate.PP 219.3

“Prophets and kings”
ÎNTR-O VIZIUNE DE NOAPTE, Nebucadnețar a văzut un copac gigantic ce creștea în mijlocul pământului, a cărui coroană se ridica până la cer și ale cărui ramuri se extindeau până la marginile pământului. PK 515.2
“From eternity past”
Esau mergea între timp în fruntea unei armate împotriva lui Iacov, în scopul de a-l ucide. Dar, în timp ce se lupta cu îngerul în acea seară, ALT ÎNGER A FOST TRIMIS SĂ ATINGĂ INIMA LUI ESAU CÂND DORMEA. În visul său, el și-a văzut fratele exilat timp de douăzeci de ani de la casa tatălui său, pentru că se temea pentru viața lui. EP 129.4
“Confrontation”
ÎNTR-O VIZIUNE a NOPȚII vedea o scară mistică, a cărei bază se odihnea pe pământ și a cărei vârf ajunge la oastea stelara, spre cerurile cele mai înalte. Mesagerii cerești urcă și coboară pe această scară de strălucire orbitoare, arătându-i calea care unește cerul cu pământul. El aude un glas care reînnoiește promisiunea milostivirii, a protecției și a binecuvântărilor viitoare. Când Iacov se trezește din acest vis, el spune: “Iehova este cu adevărat în locul acesta, și eu n-am știut-o.” Con 46.2
DOVEZI DE LA PIONIERI:
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“Campfire junior stories from the days of the S.D.A. pioneers”
ÎN NOAPTEA ACEEA O VIZIUNE A FOST DATĂ SOREI WHITE ȘI LA ORA PATRU DIMINEAȚA EA S-A RIDICAT și s-a îmbrăcat și a început să scrie ceea ce i s-a arătat. Mesajul a fost adresat mamei acestei familii, căci în viziunea ei i s-a arătat experiența unora dintre membrii familiei. CFJS 15.4
“The Fannie Bolton story”
La ieșirea din camera mea, am trecut pe lângă ușa surorii White și ușa fiind deschisă, ea m-a văzut și m-a chemat în camera ei, spunând: “Am probleme, frate Starr, și aș vrea să vorbesc cu tine”. FBS 110,5
Am întrebat-o care era cauza necazului ei și ea a răspuns: “Scrierile mele, Fannie Bolton” – doar patru cuvinte. Apoi am întrebat-o ce problemă era cu Fannie Bolton și scrierile ei și am încercat să par complet în neștiință de nici un necaz, ca să aflu ce gândea. Ea a spus: “Vreau să îți spun despre O VIZIUNE PE CARE AM AVUT-O LA ORA 2 ÎN ACEASTĂ DIMINEAȚĂ. Eram la fel de trează ca și acum, și deasupra mea a apărut un car de aur și cai de argint, iar Isus, în măreția regală, era așezat în car. FBS 110.6

“Colporteur ministry”
Domnul a pus înaintea mea lucruri care au o importanță urgentă pentru prezent și care ajung în viitor. Cuvintele acestea mi-au fost rostite: “Scrie într-o carte lucrurile pe care le-ați văzut și auzit, și las-o să meargă la tot poporul, căci timpul este aproape când istoria trecută se va repeta”. AM FOST TREZITĂ LA UNU, DOUĂ SAU TREI DIMINEAȚA cu un anumit punct ce impresiona puternic mintea mea, ca și cum ar fi vorbit prin vocea lui Dumnezeu …. CM 128.1
“Life Sketches of Ellen G. White”
Apoi i-a spus că UN ÎNGER AL LUI DUMNEZEU O TREZISE LA ORA TREI și că i-a cerut să meargă la întâlnirea pastorilor și să relateze câteva lucruri care i-au fost arătate la Salamanca. Ea a spus că s-a trezit repede și că scria de două ore. LB 315.4
“Counsels for the church”
Dar Dumnezeu, care niciodată nu doarme, și-a trimis îngerul mesager în camera lui Ellen White LA ORA TREI DIMINEAȚA. Ea a fost trezită din somn… . CCH 27,5

Felul lui Victor Sanvicente sarcastic de a vorbi

Felul sarcastic de a vorbi, gesturile, tonul vocii, lipsa de respect sunt contrare caracterului lui Cristos.
PROBE DE EXPRESII NECREȘTINE ALE LUI VICTOR:

19:42 “” În fața Tronului, bla, bla, bla, continuă… ”
20:06 “Nu mai pot spune Tată (vorbind de Tatăl ceresc, menționează înainte), ci mama mia!”
20:08 “Ce împușcături, ce aiureli”
23:32 “că minte, sau înșală, sau halucinează castraveți”
28:29 “credeți aiureliile astea? “.
33:18 “Aceste afirmații sunt pentru a merge la wc”. – (a spus aceasta imediat după ce a menționat numele lui Dumnezeu.)
34: 29 “” Cineva sfârșește scârbit, scârbit, literalmente scârbit de a trebui să examineze toate aceste” vise
40:58 “” Aici s-ar spune: asta e pt a aiuri! ”
47:07 “Și apoi este fragmentat și bla, bla, bla și bla, bla, bla și oamenii care se arată în genunchi”. – (vorbind despre Duhul Sfânt)
47:20 “Doamnă Daisy, dacă ai văzut Duhul Sfânt ești o “crack” (șmecheră) – (Cuvântul “crack” este foarte des folosit de tinerii de pe stradă care iau de obicei droguri și o mulțime de alcool).
49:14 “Ce mai aiureală” – (expresie lumească)

RĂSPUNS 1:

Mateo 12:34 Pui de vipere, CUM PUTEȚI SPUNE LUCRURI BUNE, FIIND RĂI? Fiindcă din abundența inimii vorbește gura.

Chiar și cu dușmanii noștri trebuie să rămânem prietenoși, să fim dispuși să răspundem credinței noastre cu teamă și tremur. Hristos nu a batjocorit niciodată pe satan (Iuda 1: 9). Caracterul unui creștin este același cu rudele sale, ca și cu frații, ca și cu necredincioșii sau cu dușmanii.
Matei 5:43-47
Ați auzit că s-a spus: Să iubești pe aproapele tău și să urăști pe dușmanul tău.
Dar eu vă spun: Iubiți pe dușmanii voștri, binecuvântați pe cei ce vă blestemă, faceți bine celor ce vă urăsc și rugați-vă pentru cei ce vă folosesc cu dispreț și vă persecută;
Ca să fiți copiii Tatălui vostru care este în cer, pentru că el face să răsară soarele său peste cei răi și peste cei buni și trimite ploaie peste cei drepți și peste cei nedrepți.
Fiindcă, dacă iubiți pe cei ce vă iubesc, ce răsplată aveți? Nu fac și vameșii la fel?
Și dacă salutați numai pe frații voștri, ce faceți mai mult decât alții? Nu fac și vameșii astfel?
A. ÎN BIBLIE
AMABILITATEA LUI DUMNEZEU

Judas1:9 Dar Mihail, arhanghelul, pe când se certa cu diavolul, s-a contrazis pentru trupul lui Moise şi nu a cutezat să aducă împotriva lui o acuzaţie DEFĂIMĂTOARE , ci a spus: Domnul să te mustre!

Fil 4:8 În final, fraților, toate cele ce sunt adevărate, toate cele oneste, toate cele drepte, toate cele pure, toate cele de iubit, toate cele vorbite de bine, dacă este vreo virtute și dacă este vreo laudă, gândiți-vă la acestea.

Tito 3:2 SĂ NU VORBEASCĂ DE RĂU PE NIMENI , SĂ NU FIE ARȚĂGOȘI, CI BLÂNZI , ARĂTÂND TOATĂ BLÂNDEȚEA TUTUROR OAMENILOR.

BLÂNDEȚEA LUI DUMNEZEU

Ps 37:11 Dar cei blânzi vor moșteni pământul și se vor desfăta în abundența păcii.

Mt 5:5 Binecuvântați sunt cei blânzi, pentru că ei vor moșteni pământul.

Mt 11:29 Luați jugul meu asupra voastră și învățați de la mine, pentru că Eu sunt blând și umil în inimă; și veți găsi odihnă pentru sufletele voastre.

1 Petru 3:4 …Ci să fie omul ascuns al inimii, în ceea ce este neputrezitor, chiar podoaba unui DUH BLÂND ȘI LINIȘTIT , care este de mare preț înaintea lui Dumnezeu.

1Petru 3: 15 Ci sfințiți pe Domnul Dumnezeu în inimile voastre și FIȚI GATA TOTDEAUNA PENTRU A DA UN RĂSPUNS FIECĂRUIA care vă cere un motiv al speranței ce este în voi, cu blândețe și teamă,

Iacov 3:
13 Cine este înțelept și înzestrat cu pricepere dintre voi? Să demonstreze, dintr-o bună purtare, faptele lui cu blândețea înțelepciunii!
14 Dar dacă aveți invidie amară și ceartă în inimile voastre, nu vă lăudați și nu mințiți împotriva adevărului.
15 Înțelepciunea aceasta nu coboară de sus, ci este pământească, senzuală, drăcească.
16 Fiindcă unde este invidie și ceartă, este confuzie și fiecare lucrare rea.
17 Dar înțelepciunea de sus este întâi pură, apoi pașnică, blândă, ușor de abordat, plină de milă și de roade bune, imparțială și fără fățărnicie.
18 Iar rodul dreptății este semănat în pace de cei ce fac pace.

B. ÎN SPIRITUL PROFEȚIEI

„Să nu iei numele Domnului Dumnezeului tău în deșert, căci Domnul nu va lăsa nepedepsit pe cel ce ia în deșert Numele Lui.“ PP 278.6
Această poruncă (a treia), interzice nu numai jurăminte false și hule atât de comune, dar, de asemenea, utilizarea numelui lui Dumnezeu într-o manieră frivolă sau neglijent, fără a ține seama semnificația lui extraordinară. (minutul 20:06) Dezonorăm pe Dumnezeu atunci când menționăm numele Său într-o conversație obișnuită, atunci când facem apel la el pentru chestiuni triviale , când îi repetăm ​​numele în mod frecvent și fără reflecție. “Sfânt și teribil este numele Lui .” Psalmul 111: 9. Toți trebuie să mediteze asupra măreției, purității și sfințeniei Lui, astfel încât inima să înțeleagă caracterul său înalt; și numele său sfânt să fie pronunțat cu respect și solemnitate. PP 278.7

Dumneavoastră trebuie să refuzați dispoziția de a CENZURA ȘI APĂSA PE ALȚII . EVITAȚI ORICE ȘTIȚI CA DUH DE DENUNȚARE. Nu-i place lui Dumnezeu că acest spirit îi animă pe niciunul dintre slujitorii Săi cu lungă experiență. Este tipic pentru un tânăr, dacă ai harul umilinței și podoaba interioară, ce manifestă ardoarea și zel; dar atitudinea unui tânăr cu câțiva ani de experiență demonstrează un zel distrugător și un spirit mustrător, este foarte necorespunzătoare și provoacă o profundă nemulțumire. Nimic nu ar putea distruge mai repede ca aceasta influența ta. Blândețea și amabilitatea, toleranță și răbdare, a nu te simți ușor de provocat și a suporta, aștepta și suferi totul, aceste lucruri sunt fructele pe care le produce pomul prețios al iubirii, de creștere cerească. Acest copac, dacă este hrănit, va rămâne întotdeauna verde, ramurile sale nu vor cădea și frunzele nu se vor veșteji. Este nemuritor, veșnic și continuu udat de roua cerului. 1TT 207,2

INIMA UMPLUTĂ CU DUHUL LUI DUMNEZEU ARATĂ AMABILITATE APROAPELUI SĂU. Toți cei care fac acest lucru nu vor mai fi în ÎNTUNERIC, pentru că “întunericul” său va fi ca “mijlocul zilei”. – 4CB 1173.1.

1. Există unii care tratează ușuratic, folosind SARCASMUL și chiar și BATJOCURA , pe cei care se deosebesc de ei. Alții prezintă o serie de obiecții față de orice interpretare nouă, însă atunci când aceste obiecții sunt clar răspunse prin cuvintele Scripturilor, ei nu recunosc dovezile prezentate nici nu recunosc că sunt convinși. Întrebările lor nu erau menite să ajungă la adevăr, ci la simpla intenție de a deruta mintea altora. TM 108.2

2. Unii s-au gândit că este o dovadă a clarității și superiorității intelectuale a duce mințile în perplexitate cu privire la ceea ce este adevărul. RECURG LA O ARGUMENTARE SUBTLĂ, LA JOCUL CUVINTELOR; Ei iau un avantaj nedrept prin punerea de întrebări. Când întrebările lor au fost clar răspunse, ei schimbă subiectul și sar la un alt punct pentru a evita să recunoască adevărul. Trebuie să ne protejăm împotriva păstrării spiritului care dominau pe evrei. NuU DOREAU SĂ ÎNVEȚE DE LA HRISTOS, PENTRU CĂ EXPLICAREA SCRIPTURILOR CE O OFEREA EL NU ERA ÎN CONCORDANȚĂ CU IDEILE LOR; de aceea el Îl SPIONAU ÎN DRUMUL LUI, “urmărind-L, și ÎNCERCÂND SĂ VÂNEZE VREUN CUVÂNT DIN GURA LUI PENTRU A-L ACUZA”. Să nu aducem asupra noastră teribila denunțare din cuvintele Salvatorului: “Vai de voi, interpretori ai legii! pentru că ați luat cheia științei; voi înșivă nu ați intrat, și pe cei care intrau i-ați împiedicat. TM 108.3

3. În purtarea noastre cu societatea, familia, sau orice alte relații care intervin în viață, fie ele limitate sau extinse, există mai multe modalități prin care putem recunoaște pe Domnul nostru și MULTE MODURI PRIN CARE ÎL PUTEM NEGA. PUTEM SĂ ÎL NEGĂM ÎN CUVINTELE NOASTRE, VORBIND RĂU DE ALȚII, prin conversații nebune, glume și BATJOCURI, prin cuvinte deșarte sau lipsite de bunătate, sau ocolind adevărul VORBIND ÎMPOTRIVA ADEVĂRULUI. Cu cuvintele noastre putem mărturisi că Hristos nu este în noi. PRIN CARACTERUL NOSTRU ÎL PUTEM NEGA, iubind comoditatea noastră, refuzând sarcinile și greutățile vieții pe care cineva trebuie să le poarte în cazul în care noi nu o facem, și iubind plăcerile păcătoase. De asemenea, putem nega pe Hristos prin mândria de îmbrăcăminte și conformitatea cu lumea sau printr-un comportament fără curtoazie. PUTEM SĂ-L NEGĂM PRIN PROPRIILE NOASTRE OPINII, ȘI ÎNCERCÂND SĂ ÎNĂLȚĂM ȘI SĂ JUSTIFICĂM EUL. Putem de asemenea să-L negăm permițând ca mintea să se ocupe cu un sentiment de iubire bolnăvicioasă și să mediteze la presupusa noastră soartă rea și așa zisele încercări. IPC 145.1

In fiecare ora din zi ar trebui să înțelegem că Domnul este aproape, că vede tot ceea ce facem și aude fiecare cuvânt pe care îl rostim … CUVINTELE VULGARE, LUMEȘTI, NECREȘTINE POT FI REPREZENTATE CA „FOC STRĂIN“, și cu acestea Dumnezeu nu poate avea nimic de a face. Râsul zgomotos și tare este o negare a lui Dumnezeu în suflet; CĂCI DEZVĂLUIE CĂ ADEVĂRUL NU TRONEAZĂ ÎN INIMĂ … PRIN CUVINTELE NOASTRE DEȘARTE ȘI PRIN EXEMPLUL NOSTRU NECREȘTIN DEZONORĂM PE DUMNEZEU ȘI PUNEM ÎN PERICOL NU NUMAI PROPRIUL NOSTRU SUFLET, CI ȘI SUFLETELE CELOR CU CARE NE RELAȚIONĂM. AFC 138,4

CUVINTELE ȘI ACȚIUNILE FORMEAZĂ CARACTERUL. Prin urmare, cuvintele noastre trebuie să fie curate, pure, simple și totuși înalte. Darul vorbirii este un talent valoros, iar DOMNULUI NU-I FACE PLĂCERE SĂ AUDĂ EXPRESII VULGARE, IEFTINE ȘI DEGRADANTE CARE DENOTĂ ÎN MOD CLAR VICIU ȘI CHEF. Nici un creștin nu ar trebui să se coboare pentru a imita obiceiurile celorlalți sau pentru le lua de la ei… Aceste cuvinte urâte nebune sunt note discordante și nu contribuie la fericirea nimănui. Ele sunt o degradare a spiritualității. CUVÂNTUL LUI DUMNEZEU LE INTERZICE . AFC 142.1

4 Numele slujitorilor aleși de Dumnezeu au fost tratați cu lipsă de respect și, în unele cazuri, cu dispreț absolut de către anumite persoane care ar fi trebuit să-i înalțe. COPII AU AUZIT COMENTARIILE LIPSITE DE RESPECT ALE PĂRINȚILOR LOR CU PRIVIRE LA MUSTRĂRILE SOLEMNE ȘI LA AVERTIZĂRILE DATE DE CĂTRE SLUJITORII LUI DUMNEZEU. AU ÎNȚELES EXPRESIILE BATJOCORITOARE ȘI DISPREȚUITOARE care, din când în când le-au ajuns la urechi, iar tendința a fost de a pune în minte interesul etern și sacru la același nivel cu problemele comune ale lumii. Ce lucrare fac acești părinți transformându-și copiii în necredincioși din copilărie! Astfel este cum se învață copiii să fie ireverenți și să se revolte împotriva mustrărilor ce le trimite cerul împotriva păcatului. IPC 316.1

SLUJITORII LUI HRISTOS NU TREBUIE SĂ ACȚIONEZE DUPĂ PORNIRILE INIMII FIREȘTI. Ei au nevoie să aibă o comuniune intimă cu Dumnezeu, ca nu cumva, SUB PROVOCARE, EUL SĂ SE RIDICE ȘI SĂ LASE SĂ LE SCAPE UN TORENT DE CUVINTE DEZAVANTAJOASE, care sunt departe de a fi ca roua și ca picăturile suave, care reâmprospătează plantele ofilite. ACESTA ESTE CEEA CE SATAN VREA CA EI SĂ FACĂ; PENTRU CĂ ACESTEA SUNT METODELE SALE. EL ESTE BALAURUL CARE SE MÂNIE, ESTE DUHUL LUI SATAN CEL CARE SE DESCOPERĂ ÎN MÂNIE ȘI ACUZATII. Dar slujitorii lui Dumnezeu trebuie să fie reprezentanții Săi . El dorește ca ei să negocieze doar cu moneda cerului, adevărul care poartă propria Sa imagine și inscripție. Puterea prin care trebuie să învingă răul este puterea lui Hristos. Slava lui Hristos este tăria Lui. Trebuie să-și fixeze ochii pe frumusețea Lui. Atunci, vor putea prezenta Evanghelia cu tact și cu bunătate divină. ȘI SPIRITUL CARE SE MENȚINE AMABIL SUB PROVOCARE VA VORBI MAI EFICIENT ÎN FAVOAREA ADEVARULUI DECÂT ORICE ARGUMENT, ORICÂT DE ENERGETIC AR FI. DTG 319.2

“Să nu mărturiseşti strâmb împotriva aproapelui tău” (Exod 20, 16). PP 309.2
Vorbirea neadevărată în orice problemă, orice încercare sau intenţie de a – l înşela pe aproapele nostru sunt cuprinse aici. Intenţia de a înşela constituie o minciună. Printr – o privire a ochiului, o mişcare cu mâna, o expresie a feţei pot spune tot atât de bine o minciună, ca şi prin cuvinte. ORICE EXAGERARE INTENȚIONATĂ ÎN VORBIRE , ORICE ALUZIE SAU ORICE INSINUARE FĂCUTĂ ÎN MOD CALCULAT, CU GÂNDUL DE A FACE O IMPRESIE GREȘITĂ SAU EXAGERATĂ, CHIAR POVESTIREA UNOR FAPTE ÎN AȘA FEL ÎNCÂT SĂ DUCĂ ÎN RĂTĂCIRE PE CINEVA, TOATE ACESTEA CONSTITUIE O MINCIUNĂ. Acest precept interzice ORICE ÎNCERCARE DE A VĂTĂMA BUNUL NUME AL SEMNULUI NOSTRU PRIN RELATĂRI INEXACTE SAU BĂNUIELI RELE, PRIN VORBIRII DE RĂU SAU BÂRFELE. Chiar şi ASCUNDEREA INTENȚIONATĂ A ADEVĂRULUI, de pe urma căreia alţii pot fi păgubiţi, este o violare a poruncii a noua. PP 309.3

Unii manifestă un spirit distant şi rece şi o mândrie respingătoare, care îi inhibă pe cei ce se află în sfera lor de influenţă. Această atitudine este contagioasă; ea creează o atmosferă care risipeşte bunele intenţii; blochează spiritul natural al simpatiei, cordialităţii şi iubirii omeneşti şi, sub influenţa ei, oamenii sunt frustraţi, iar dorinţa lor de a fi sociabili şi generoşi este anihilată. 2MCP 482.4
Această stare de depresie nenaturală afectează nu numai sănătatea spirituală, ci şi sănătatea fizică. Confuzia şi răceala unei asemenea atmosfere nesociabile se reflectă în înfăţişarea exterioară. Feţele celor ce sunt binevoitori şi înţelegători vor străluci de lumina adevăratei bunătăţi, în timp ce înfăţişarea acelora care nu cultivă gânduri bune şi motive neegoiste va trăda sentimentele ascunse din inimile lor. – Testimonies for the Church 4:64 (1876). 2MCP 483.1

UNDE ESTE DUHUL DOMNULUI , ACOLO ESTE BLÂNDEȚE , RĂBDARE, AMABILITATE ȘI ÎNDELUNGĂ RĂBDARE. UN ADEVĂRAT DISCIPOL AL LUI CRISTOS VA CĂUTA SĂ IMITE MODELUL.. . 2JT 257,1

Faptul că îi judecăm pe fraţii noştri, că îngăduim ca simţămintele noastre să fie stârnite împotriva lor, atunci când credem că nu s – au comportat tocmai corect faţă de noi, nu va aduce nici o binecuvântare în inimile noastre şi nu va îmbunătăţi în nici un fel situaţia creată. Eu nu îndrăznesc să permit ca simţămintele mele să alunece pe calea vânării tuturor motivelor de nemulţumire, repetându – le mereu şi mereu şi trăind într – o atmosferă de neîncredere, ostilitate şi disensiune. – Letter 74, 1888. (Our High Calling, 239.) 2MCP 791.1

Stând în spatele lui Pilat, privind panorama întregii curţi, Domnul Hristos a auzit ocările; dar, faţă de toate acuzaţiile false aduse împotriva Sa, n – a răspuns nici un cuvânt. Întreaga Sa comportare dădea mărturie despre o evidentă nevinovăţie. El stătea nemişcat de furia valurilor ce tălăzuiau în jurul Său. Era ca şi când valurile apăsătoare ale mâniei, ridicându – se mai mult şi tot mai mult, asemenea valurilor oceanului cuprins de furtună, se spărgeau asupra Lui, dar fără să – L atingă. El rămânea tăcut, dar tăcerea Lui era elocventă. Era asemenea unei lumini strălucind dinăuntru în afara Lui. HLL 726.3

“S.D.A Bible commentary volume 6”
Suntem sfătuiți SĂ NU PERMITEM COMUNICĂRII CORUPTE SĂ IASĂ DIN GURA NOASTRĂ ; dar o comunicare coruptă nu este pur și simplu ceva vulgar și josnic. Este orice comunicare care va eclipsa din minte viziunea lui Cristos, care va bloca din suflet adevărata simpatie și iubire. Este o comunicare în care dragostea lui Cristos nu este exprimată, ci mai degrabă sentimente de caracter necreștin. (Letter 43, 1895). 6BC 1117.16

“Testimonies for the church volume one”
Pastorul nu ar trebui să își lase garda jos pentru nici o singură clipă. El lucrează să-i înalțe pe alții prin aducerea lor pe platforma adevărului. Să arate altora că adevărul a făcut ceva pentru el. EL AR TREBUI SĂ VADĂ RĂUL ACESTOR EXPRESII NEGLIJENTE, DUREROASE ȘI VULGARE și ar trebui să pună capăt și să disprețuiască totul din acest caracter. DACĂ NU FACE ACEST LUCRU, CONVERTIȚII LUI SE VOR MODELA DUPĂ EL. 1T 445.1
“A call to stand apart”
Adu-ți aminte că este privilegiul tău și datoria ta de a lucra împreună cu Dumnezeu în orice fel posibil. Nu trebuie să te cobori la același nivel cu cei necredincioși și să glumești și să râzi în conversație necioplită sau vulgară. CA 76.1
RĂSPUNSUL 2

Problema este și mai gravă atunci când persoana despre care se vorbeste atât de rău este un mesager al lui Dumnezeu:

Am văzut starea unora care au aderat la adevărul prezent, dar nu ascultau de viziuni – modul în care Domnul a ales să învețe, în unele cazuri, pe cei care greseau în adevărul biblic. AM VĂZUT CĂ CEI CARE AU ATACAT VIZIUNILE NU ATACAU VIERMELE – instrumentul slab prin care a vorbit Dumnezeu – CI PE SPIRITUL SFÂNT. Am văzut că era un lucru mic să vorbești împotriva instrumentului, dar că era periculos să subestimezi cuvintele lui Dumnezeu. Am văzut că, dacă aceștia erau în eroare și Dumnezeu voia să le arate erorile lor prin viziuni, și ei disprețuiau învățăturile lui Dumnezeu date prin viziuni, ar fi lăsați să-și urmeze propriile lor căi și ar merge pe calea erorii și ar crede că sunt pe calea cea bună până când și-ar da seama prea târziu. Apoi, în timpul de strâmtorare i-am auzit strigând către Dumnezeu în agonie: „De ce nu ne-ai arătat greșelile noastre ca să fi putut face ceea ce este corect și să fi fost pregătiți pentru acest timp?“ Apoi, un înger i-a arătat și a spus: „Tatăl meu a învățat, dar nu a-ți fost dispuși să fiți învățați. A VORBIT PRIN VIZIUNI, dar ați respins vocea Lui și El va abandonat propriilor voastre căi ca să fiți mulțumiți de propriiile voastre fapte. “ (Volante, pentru cei care Primesc sigiliul Dumnezeului cel viu, [broșura din 31 ianuarie 1849). 1MS 45.1

Mat 12:31 Din această cauză vă spun: Orice păcat și orice blasfemie vor fi iertate oamenilor; DAR BLASFEMIA ÎMPOTRIVA DUHULUI SFÂNT NU VA FI IERTAT OAMENILOR.

Mat 12:32 Și oricui VORBEȘTE UN CUVÂNT ÎMPOTRIVA FIULUI OMULUI, îi va fi iertat; DAR ORICUI VORBEȘTE ÎMPOTRIVA DUHULUI SFÂNT, NU ÎI VA FI IERTAT NICI ÎN ACEASTĂ LUME, NICI ÎN CEA CARE VINE.

The Holy Spirit like a lightning

 

Accusation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnsd5scvXUg&index=1&list=RDXnsd5scvXUg
Daisy says that she saw how the Holy Spirit defragmented into lightnings that were spread all over the earth.
FullProphecy claims that what Daisy saw is from the devil, based on this verse:
KJV Luke 10
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

ANSWER:
In the Bible it is very common to use the same symbols to represent both the devil and Jesus. They are just analogies that need to be studied, because some characteristics of the symbols used represent Jesus while others represent Satan. For example: the lion, the snake, the goat, the lightning etc.

Both Satan and Jesus are compared to a lion:
KJV 1 Peter 5
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

KJV Genesis 49
9 Judah is a lion’s whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

KJV Revelation 5
5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Jesus was symbolized by a snake, christians are to be wise as serpents and the devil is called a snake.

KJV John 3
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

KJV Matthew 10
16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

KJV Revelation 20
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Both Jesus and the devil are represented by goats.

KJV Leviticus 16
7 And he shall take the two goats, and present them before the LORD at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
8 And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat.
9 And Aaron shall bring the goat upon which the LORD’S lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering.
10 But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.

“The great controversy 1888”
It was seen, also, that while the sin – offering pointed to Christ as a sacrifice, and the high priest represented Christ as a mediator, the scape – goat typified Satan, the author of sin, upon whom the sins of the truly penitent will finally be placed. GC88 422.2

The lightning analogies clarified:
KJV Luke 10
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Comment: Luke 10:18 is the only verse that seems to compare Satan to lightning. There are many more verses in the Bible associating God with lightnings. There are also verses in which Christ’s physical aspect is compared to lightning and where angels are compared to lightning as well.

(Angels)
KJV Matthew 28
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:

(Jesus Christ)
KJV Daniel 10
6 His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
(Lightnings of God)
KJV Psalms 77
18 The voice of thy thunder was in the heaven: the lightnings lightened the world: the earth trembled and shook.

KJV Psalms 97
4 His lightnings enlightened the world: the earth saw, and trembled.

KJV Exodus 19
The Awe-inspiring Presence of God on Mount Sinai
16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.

KJV Psalms 135
7 He causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings for the rain; he bringeth the wind out of his treasuries.

(Christ’s second coming)
KJV Matthew 24
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

(Holy Spirit is described as lightning)
The lightning flashes of the Holy Spirit have indicated what is truth. Ms34-1906.5

(Lightnings at the throne of God)
KJV Revelation 4
5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
Testimony from the pioneers in “Advent review and Sabbath herald”
People are struck down in a moment. In one case fifteen individuals were struck down while a man was praying with great earnestness. At another place while one prayed that the Holy Spirit might descend as with fire, a flash of lightning which filled the building at the moment, struck the congregation with awe; and trembling with terror they prostrated themselves upon the floor. Out of 700 there were one hundred convicted. ARSH October 6, 1859, p. 157.19
There are uncommon and singular phenomena attending this work, which characterize it more or less everywhere. Persons are struck in a moment with the most overwhelming sense of sin and danger.
In conclusion, God created the lightning and throughout the Bible and the writings of the Spirit of Prophecy it is attributed to Him. Let us review the verse where the devil is compared to lightning :
KJV Luke 10
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Is this verse really comparing Satan to lightning? What happened before the fall of Satan?
KJV Revelation 12
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
So Satan was cast out, it was not by his power that he fell as lightning, but Michael cast him out with the speed of lightning. So you see, even this verse exemplifies the power of God…. He cast out the devil as lightning.

El Espiritu Santo como rayo o relampago

ACUSACIÓN

Dice Daisy que vio al Espiritu Santo desfragmentandose en rayos y se esparcia por toda la tierra.
Fullprophecy sugiere que lo que Daisy vio fue a satanas.
Lc 10:18 Y Él les dijo: Yo vi a Satanás caer del cielo como un rayo.

RESPUESTA

1) En la Biblia es comun usarse los mismos simbolos para Jesús y Sus seguidores como para satanas y sus seguidores.

Ejemplos: leon, serpiente, macho cabrío etc
SATANAS ES LEON, JESÚS ES LEON
1Pedro 5:8 “Sed sobrios, y velad; porque vuestro adversario EL DIABLO , cual LEÓN rugiente, anda alrededor buscando a quien devorar;”
Gen: 49:9>>Cachorro de LEÓN es JUDÁ: De la presa subiste, hijo mío: Se encorvó, se echó como LEÓN , así como LEÓN viejo; ¿quién lo despertará?
Apocalipsis 5:5>>”Y uno de los ancianos me dijo: No llores; he aquí EL LEÓN de la tribu de JUDÁ, LA RAÍZ DE DAVID , que ha vencido para abrir el libro y desatar sus siete sellos.”
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JESÚS ES SERPIENTE, LOS CRISTIANOS DEBEN SER COMO LOS SERPIENTES, SATANAS ES SERPIENTE
Juan 3: 14 Y como Moisés levantó LA SERPIENTE en el desierto, así es necesario que EL HIJO DEL HOMBRE sea levantado;
Mat 10:16 He aquí yo os envío como ovejas en medio de lobos; sed, pues, sabios como SERPIENTES , y sencillos como palomas
Rev 20:2 Y prendió al dragón, aquella SERPIENTE antigua, que es el Diablo y Satanás, y le ató por mil años;
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JESÚS ES MACHO CABRIO, SATANAS ES MACHO CABRIO
Lev 16:7-22
7 Después tomará los DOS MACHOS CABRÍOS, y los presentará delante de Jehová a la puerta del tabernáculo de la congregación.
8 Y echará suertes Aarón sobre los dos machos cabríos; una suerte por Jehová, y la otra suerte por el macho cabrío de escapatoria.
9 Y Aarón hará traer el macho cabrío sobre el cual cayere la suerte por Jehová, y lo ofrecerá en expiación.
10 Mas el macho cabrío, sobre el cual cayere la suerte por el macho cabrío de escapatoria, lo presentará vivo delante de Jehová, para hacer la reconciliación sobre él, para enviarlo como macho cabrío de escapatoria al desierto….
Comentario: Ellen White nos dice quien son los dos macho cabrios:
“el macho cabrío simbolizaba a Satanás, autor del pecado, sobre quien serán colocados finalmente los pecados de los verdaderamente arrepentidos.” Seguridad y Paz en el Conflicto de los Siglos, 461 – 475. CES 97.3

2) Lc 10:18 Y Él les dijo: Yo vi a Satanás caer del cielo como un rayo.

Comentario: Lucas 10:18 es el unico versiculo que compara a Satanas con un rayo.
Pero hay más versiculos en la Biblia que asocian los rayos o relampagos con Dios, hay más versiculos en la Biblia que demuestran que el aspecto fisico de Jesucristo es comparado como un rayo, tambien los angeles celestiales son comparados con rayos o relampagos y tambien Dios envia “Sus rayos” a la tierra.

(LOS ANGELES)
Mateo 28:2,3>> Y he aquí, fue hecho un gran terremoto; porque el ángel del Señor descendió del cielo y llegando, removió la piedra de la puerta, y se sentó sobre ella.
Y SU ASPECTO ERA COMO RELÁMPAGO , y su vestidura blanca como la nieve.

(JESUCRISTO)
Dan 10:6>>Y su cuerpo era como el berilo, y SU ROSTRO PARECÍA UN RELÁMPAGO, y sus ojos como antorchas de fuego, y sus brazos y sus pies como de color de bronce resplandeciente, y la voz de sus palabras como la voz de una multitud.

(RELAMPAGOS DE DIOS)
Psalmo 77:18>>Anduvo en derredor el sonido de tus truenos; los RELÁMPAGOS ALUMBRARON EL MUNDO; se estremeció y TEMBLÓ la tierra.
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Psalmo 97:4>>SUS RELÁMPAGOS ALUMBRARON EL MUNDO; la tierra vio, y se ESTREMECIÓ.
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Exodo 19:16>>Y aconteció al tercer día cuando vino la mañana, que vinieron truenos y RELÁMPAGOS, y espesa nube sobre el monte, y sonido de trompeta muy fuerte; y se ESTREMECIÓ TODO EL PUEBLO que estaba en el campamento.
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Psalmo 135:7>>Él hace subir las nubes de los extremos de la tierra; HACE LOS RELÁPAGOS para la lluvia ; saca los vientos de sus depósitos.

(EL REGRESO DE JESUCRISTO)
Mateo 24:27>>Porque COMO EL
RELÁMPAGO que sale del oriente y se muestra hasta el occidente, así será también la venida del Hijo del Hombre.

(DIOS MISMO APARECE COMO RELAMPAGO)
Noé y su familia estaban en el arca; “y Jehová le cerró la puerta”. vers. 16. Se vio un RELÁMPAGO deslumbrante, y UNA NUBE DE GLORIA MÁS VÍVIDA QUE EL RELAMPAGO DESCENDIÓ DEL CIELO PARA CERNERSE ANTE LA ENTRADA DEL ARCA. La maciza puerta, que no podían cerrar los que estaban dentro, fue puesta lentamente en su sitio por manos invisibles. Noé quedó adentro y los que habían desechado la misericordia de Dios quedaron afuera. El sello del cielo fue puesto sobre la puerta; DIOS LA HABIA CERRADO, y SOLAMENTE DIOS PODIA ABRIRLA.PP 75.4

(EL ESPIRITU SANTO Y LA LLUVIA TARDÍA)
“Las palabras de Dios son las fuentes de la vida. Mientras buscamos estas fuentes vivas, EL ESPÍRITU SANTO nos pondrá en comunión con Cristo. Verdades ya conocidas se presentarán a nuestra mente con nuevo aspecto; ciertos pasajes de las Escrituras revestirán nuevo significado, como ILUMINADOS POR UN RELÁMPAGO; comprenderemos la relación entre otras verdades y la obra de redención, y sabremos que Cristo nos está guiando, que un Instructor divino está a nuestro lado”. DMJ 22.1
+Mateo 5:15>>Ni se enciende un candil y se pone debajo del almud, sino sobre el candelero, y ALUMBRA A TODOS LOS QUE ESTÁN EN CASA.
Comentario: Un candil para alumbrar se necesita ponerle aceite.El aceite en la Biblia es El Espititu Santo que ALUMBRA EL MUNDO.
—Joe. 2:23>> Vosotros también, hijos de Sión, alegraos y gozaos en Jehová vuestro Dios; porque os ha dado la primera LLUVIA moderadamente, y hará descender sobre vosotros LLUVIA TEMPRANA y TARDIA como al principio.
Deut.11:14>>Yo daré la LLUVIA de vuestra tierra en su tiempo, la TEMPRANA y la TARDIA; y recogerás tu grano, y tu vino, y tu aceite.
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Echos 2:2>>Y de repente vino un Estruendo del cielo como de un VIENTO recio que corría, el cual LLENÓ TODA LA CASA donde estaban sentados;(ver Mat 5:15>> ALUMBRA A TODOS LOS QUE ESTÁN EN CASA; PS 135:7>> SACA LOS VIENTOS DE SUS DEPOSITOS)
CONCLUSION
el diablo no tiene derechos de autor en ninguna cosa fuera del pecado. “El es el autor del pecado”. El no creo el relampago y no tiene el poder de usarlo solo para si.
(2Cor 11:14 Y no es de maravillarse, porque el mismo Satanás se disfraza COMO ángel de luz.)
Satanas puede solo imitar o falsificar algo que Dios creó.

The martyrdom is not culminating 

 

ACCUSATION
Daisy says that Jesus told her that martyrdom is at its peak. Victor says that this is not true, he claims that martyrdom will be at its peak after the decree goes forth.

Revelation 13
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
ANSWER

There isn’t just one type of martyrdom, the Bible and writings of the Spirit of Prophecy describe many types of martyrdoms… to God martyrdom means a lot more that physical death. Just like “thou shalt not commit adultery” at the first glance would be simply interpreted not to cheat on your wife but in reality it covers even a simple thought of committing adultery, just the same martyrdom covers a lot more than simple death.

1)Physical death.
Jesus has both a visible church and an invisible one. He sees everything, He sees both His visible and invisible church, the one that we cannot see… this church is a target for Satan’s attacks as well.
Many christians are physically killed at the present time, and even if they do not have the advent truth, they are still the invisible church of God.
The physical martyrdom of the visible church (Revelation 20:4) will be after the decree, in the little time of trouble (check Last day Events page 143), many adventists will be imprisoned or killed.
The death decree for the 144000 will happen after the close of probation and none of them will be killed.

2) The Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy writings teach that martyrdom does not refer only to physical death, but also to persecution, unjust accusations, gossip, evil surmisings, tarnishing one’s name, neglecting the widow and the orphan… even raising a child with bad habbits that destroy its health.
TODAT, THE PSYCHICAL AND SPIRITUAL MARTYRDOM OF THE REMNANT IS AT ITS PEAK, as Jesus is stating to Daisy. Those that hold fast to principle, that aim to obey the truth and show the people their sins (unlike those that the Bible describes as “dumb dogs” – these harsh words should show how much God holds in contempt not warning our brothers of sliding into sin) ARE BEING PERSECUTED (MARTYRED) by the SDA Organization, the nominal, laodicean church.
Because physical martyrdom is a clear truth for SDA’s, we will focus on proof from the inspired writings regarding the psychical and spiritual martyrdom THAT TODAY IS AT ITS PEAK in the remnant church (Ezekiel 34).
BIBLE PROOF

COMMENT : persecution, not helping those in need with food and clothes, anger, false accusations, gossip and every type of evil speaking are sins commited by breaking the 6th commandment “thou shalt not kill”. Basically all of the above is equal to killing in the sight of God and those that suffer due to these are seen as martyrs.
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Psalms 44
22 Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.

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Romans 8
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

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Jeremiah 18
Jeremiah’s Prayer
18 Then said they, Come, and let us devise devices against Jeremiah; for the law shall not perish from the priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet. Come, and let us smite (nâkâh = to strike, smite, hit, beat, slay, kill) him with the tongue, and let us not give heed to any of his words.

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Matthew 5
Jesus Talks about Anger
21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

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Isaiah 33
15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;

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Isaiah 59
3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
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KJV Isaiah 59
7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
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Jeremiah 7
6 If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:
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KJV Jeremiah 22
3 Thus saith the LORD; Execute ye judgment and righteousness, and deliver the spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor: and do no wrong, do no violence to the stranger, the fatherless, nor the widow, neither shed innocent blood in this place.
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KJV Ezekiel 18
10 If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that doeth the like to any one of these things,
11 And that doeth not any of those duties, but even hath eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbour’s wife,
12 Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination,
13 Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.
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KJV Ezekiel 22
Sins of Jerusalem
1 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? yea, thou shalt shew her all her abominations.
3 Then say thou, Thus saith the Lord GOD, The city sheddeth blood in the midst of it, that her time may come, and maketh idols against herself to defile herself.
4 Thou art become guilty in thy blood that thou hast shed; and hast defiled thyself in thine idols which thou hast made; and thou hast caused thy days to draw near, and art come even unto thy years: therefore have I made thee a reproach unto the heathen, and a mocking to all countries.
5 Those that be near, and those that be far from thee, shall mock thee, which art infamous and much vexed.
6 Behold, the princes of Israel, every one were in thee to their power to shed blood.
7 In thee have they set light by father and mother: in the midst of thee have they dealt by oppression with the stranger: in thee have they vexed the fatherless and the widow.
8 Thou hast despised mine holy things, and hast profaned my sabbaths.
9 In thee are men that carry tales to shed blood: and in thee they eat upon the mountains: in the midst of thee they commit lewdness.
10 In thee have they discovered their fathers’ nakedness: in thee have they humbled her that was set apart for pollution.
11 And one hath committed abomination with his neighbour’s wife; and another hath lewdly defiled his daughter in law; and another in thee hath humbled his sister, his father’s daughter.
12 In thee have they taken gifts to shed blood; thou hast taken usury and increase, and thou hast greedily gained of thy neighbours by extortion, and hast forgotten me, saith the Lord GOD.

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Ezekiel 23
37 That they have committed adultery, and blood is in their hands, and with their idols have they committed adultery, and have also caused their sons, whom they bare unto me, to pass for them through the fire, to devour them.
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Ezekiel 23
45 And the righteous men, they shall judge them after the manner of adulteresses, and after the manner of women that shed blood; because they are adulteresses, and blood is in their hands.
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Isaiah 1
15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
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Hosea 6
8 Gilead is a city of them that work iniquity, and is polluted with blood.
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Micah 3
9 Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity.
10 They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.
11 The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us.
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Micah 7
2 The good man is perished out of the earth: and there is none upright among men: they all lie in wait for blood; they hunt every man his brother with a net.
3 That they may do evil with both hands earnestly, the prince asketh, and the judge asketh for a reward; and the great man, he uttereth his mischievous desire: so they wrap it up.
4 The best of them is as a brier: the most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge: the day of thy watchmen and thy visitation cometh; now shall be their perplexity.
5 Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.
6 For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man’s enemies are the men of his own house.

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KJV Nahum 3
The Miserable Ruin of Nineveh
1 Woe to the bloody city! it is all full of lies and robbery; the prey departeth not;
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Habacuc 2: 12 Vai celui ce construiește un ORAȘ CU SÂNGE și întemeiază o CETATE PRIN NELEGIUIRE !

COMMENT: the martyrdom that is currently taking place in the remnant church, of the leaders against the members that keep the truth, is plainly stated in Ezekiel 34:
The Promise of a New Shepherd
1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?
3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.
4 The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.
5 And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered.
6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.
7 Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
8 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;
9 Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
PROOF FROM THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY WRITINGS

“Manuscript 17, 1898”
The Lord’s people are mainly made up of the poor of this world, the common people. Not many wise, not many mighty, not many noble are called. God hath chosen the poor of this world. The poor have the gospel preached unto them. The wealthy are called, in one sense; they are invited, but they do not accept the invitation. But in these wicked cities, the Lord has many who are humble and yet trustful. Many of these the ministers of the gospel know nothing about. The churches do not know them, because there are many professors, but few who minister; but they are the Lord’s lights, shining in lowly, miserable places. Patient, meek, gentle, suffering with nakedness, hunger, and cold, they are the Lord’s martyrs. Angels visit them, and bear to heaven the record that the Lord’s capital, entrusted to human agents, is misappropriated, that the church is guilty of squandering the Lord’s means. Ms17-1898.2
It was an insult to God when David numbered Israel. God’s rebuke rested upon him; for he made himself as God, as though he could tell the strength of the armies of Israel by their numbers. “This is the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts.” God looks not to the numbers of Israel for the success of His work. His armies number thousands of thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. These co – operate with the men who will connect with God to be channels of light. Ms17-1898.3
There are in our cities thousands who have the fear of God before them, who have not bowed the knee to Baal. It is because so many of these are in lowly circumstances that the world does not notice them. But though hidden in highways and hedges, these are seeking God. Ms17-1898.4
It is because of poverty that many are sick, and because of sickness that there is so much poverty. Many in their poverty minister to others. The reward received by these will be proportionate to their willing obedience. Jesus saw how it would be, and He desires His servants to communicate with these suffering ones. The last gospel call is to be sounded, not only in the highways, but in the hedges. Ms17-1898.5
“Testimonies for the church volume two”
But the poor children, who think that mother knows best what is right, are the greatest sufferers. The mother’s wrong course has enfeebled herself, and, if chilly, she bundles up in more wrappings, and provides the same for the children, thinking that they also must be chilly. The doors and windows are closed, and the temperature of the room increased. The children are frequently puny and weakly, and do not possess a high degree of moral worth. Husband and children are thus shut up for the winter, slaves to the notions of a woman controlled by imagination, and sometimes having a set will. The members of such a family are daily martyrs. They are sacrificing health to the caprice of an imaginative, complaining, murmuring woman. They are deprived, in a great measure, of air, which will invigorate them and give them energy and vitality. 2T 532.1
“Healthful living”
Many infants are poisoned beyond remedy by sleeping in beds with their tobacco – using fathers. By inhaling the poisonous tobacco effluvium, which is thrown from the lungs and pores of the skin, the system of the infant is filled with poison. While it acts upon some infants as a slow poison, and affects the brain, heart, liver, and lungs, and they waste away and fade gradually; upon others it has a more direct influence, causing spasms, paralysis, and sudden death. The bereaved parents mourn the loss of their loved ones, and wonder at the mysterious providence of God, which has so cruelly afflicted them, when Providence designed not the death of these infants. They died martyrs to the filthy lust for tobacco. Every exhalation of the lungs of the tobacco slave poisons the air about him. – The Health Reformer, January 1, 1872. HL 111.1
“Selected messages book 2”
Thousands of infants have died who might have lived. They are martyrs to their parent’s ignorance of the relation which food, dress and the air they breathe, sustain to health and life. Mothers in past ages, should have been physicians to their own children. 2SM 469.1
“Testimonies on sexual behavior, adultery and divorce”
There are many living martyrs today who suffer in silence, who trust in God when they are abused with the tongue and who are tantalized, who are hurt and wounded by coarse, harsh denunciations, whose lot seems to be to live and to suffer, receiving comfort only from Jesus who is the Source of their strength. Such souls are missionaries. They are Christ’s noble ones, and their names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life. TSB 47.2

“Manuscript releases volume 3”
I am pained when I receive letters from mothers who have children inquiring, Shall I leave my children to do missionary work? In the fear and love of God, I say, become a home missionary. Educate yourself in Bible ways and means that you may be a successful worker in your own home, for you see they need to be saved, for they are sinners. Do not forsake your post of duty because of the unpleasantness of it. There are many living martyrs today who suffer in silence, who trust in God when they are abused with the tongue and who are tantalized, who are hurt and wounded by coarse, harsh denunciations, whose lot seems to be to live and to suffer, receiving comfort only from Jesus, who is the source of their strength. Such souls are missionaries. They are Christ’s noble ones, and their names are written in the Lamb’s book of life. 3MR 372.1

“Manuscript 56, 1886”
So will it be with the remnant people of God who are scattered – some in the mountain fastness, some exiled, some pursued, some persecuted. When the voice of God is heard, and the brightness of the glory is revealed, and the trial is over, the dross removed, they know they are in the presence of One who has redeemed them by His own blood. Just what Christ was to John in his exile, He will be to His people who are made to feel the hand of oppression for the faith and testimony of Jesus Christ. These very martyrs will one day be resplendent with the glory of God because He has faithful ones who have been loyal where the world, the churches, have made void His holy law. These were driven by the storm and tempest of persecution to the crevices of the rocks, but were hiding in the Rock of Ages; and in the fastness of the mountains, in the caves and dens of the earth, the Saviour reveals His presence and His glory. Ms56-1886.14

CONCLUSION:
Today there are many classes of martyrs in God’s people, both visible and invisible
– living martyrs suffering from hunger, poverty, diseases etc. that in spite of all of this, serve God
– martyrs of the parents’ lust and their unwillingness to lead the children in the health reform
– living martyrs “ABUSED WITH THE TONGUE that are TORMENTED, WOUNDED BY HARSH AND CRUEL DENUNCIATIONS”, persecuted for the truth, called extremists, dissidents, separatists, independent atoms, all of these unjustly.
– living martyrs in prisons or dead martyrs belonging to the invisible church, all around the world.

In the future, after the sunday law, there will be the last martyrs in the little time of trouble, while there is still grace left. Those will be all the ones that will not accept the sign of the beast under threat of death or imprisonment. (Revelation 20:4)
We can conclude that what was told to Daisy is true. Martyrdom is at its peak today in more areas than one. Poverty is at its peak and neglection of these suffering ones is at its peak; religious persecution is at its peak; there are douzins of wars going on at the same time in the world today, people are losing their homes, their loved ones; insults and “killing with the tongue” is at its peak, the lack of respect and courtesy in the world today is unbelievable; martyrdom in the SDA organization is at its peak, while homosexuals and transexuals, adulterers and thieves etc. are being baptized to increase the treasury income, those that faithfully admonish, warn, reprove as being directed by the Spirit, are insulted, persecuted, framed for heinous acts, called extremists.
Martyrdom is at its peak today and it will stay so until the sunday law.

During the great time of trouble, after the closing of probation, the worldwide death decree will go forth, but it will not produce a single victim. So, after the close of probation there won’t be any physically dead martyrs, only living ones. The 144000 are called martyrs in a quote above from Manuscript 56, 1886

God the Father cannot be seen

ACCUSATION:

God the Father cannot be seen by mortals.

1John 4:12
No man hath seen God at any time…

ANSWER: What no mortal has ever seen is the face of God the Father.
Many people have seen in dreams parts of the Father’s person, but not His face.
BIBLICAL PROOF
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1John 4:12 must be understood in the light of this verse:
Exodus 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see MY FACE : for there shall no man SEE ME , and live.

Revelation 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us FROM THE FACE of Him that sitteth on the throne , and from the wrath of the Lamb:

Daniel could see the hair of the Father
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Daniel 7:9. I BEHELD till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow , and THE HAIR OF HIS HEAD LIKE THE PURE WOOL : his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

Daniel saw in his visions God the Father, but not His face
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Daniel 7:13. I SAW in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and CAME TO THE ANCIENT OF DAYS , and they brought him near before him.

Stephen saw Jesus and God the Father
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Acts 7
55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
The face of Jesus can be looked upon
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Daniel 10:5,6 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz: note His body also was like the beryl, and HIS FACE as the appearance of lightning, and HIS EYES as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
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Revelation 1:13-17 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
HIS HEAD AND HIS HAIRS WERE WHITE LIKE WOOL, as white as snow; and HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE.
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of HIS MOUTH went a sharp twoedged sword: and HIS COUNTENANCE was as the sun shineth in his strength. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead.

In eternity the saved will be able to look upon the face of God the Father
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Revelation 22: 3 – 4 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
And they SHALL SEE HIS FACE; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

PROOF FROM E.G. WHITE’S WRITINGS

Daniel speaking of God, calls him the Ancient of days. Daniel 7:9. “And the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool.” THIS PERSONAGE IS SAID TO HAVE A HEAD, AND HAIR ; this certainly could not be said of him if he was immaterial and had no form. But Paul’s testimony in Hebrews 1:3, ought to settle every candid mind in regard to the personality of God. Speaking of Christ, he says, “Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his (the Father’s) person.” MPC 31.2

Showing that this power would, like man, lust after the riches and honors of the world, and exercise great authority. “I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and THE HAIR OF HIS HEAD LIKE THE PURE WOOL; his throne like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning.” 9th verse. This verse is so obvious, that it needs no comment. IT IS A DESCRIPTION OF GOD THE FATHER. HST April 15, 1841, p. 9.8
QUOTES REGARDING THE FACE:

“Counsels for the church”
Christ took with Him to the heavenly courts His glorified humanity. To those who receive Him, He gives power to become the sons of God, that at last God may receive as His, to dwell with Him throughout eternity. If, during this life, they are loyal to God, THEY WILL AT LAST “SEE HIS FACE; and His name shall be in their foreheads.” Revelation 22:4. AND WHAT IS THE HAPPINESS OF HEAVEN BUT TO SEE GOD? What greater joy could come to the sinner saved by the grace of Christ than to look upon the face of God and know Him as Father? CCh 76.3

“Early Writings”
Moses was greater than any who had lived before him. He had been highly honored of God, being privileged TO TALK WITH THE LORD (with Jesus n. tr. ) FACE TO FACE, as a man speaks with a friend. He was permitted to see the bright light and excellent glory that enshrouded the Father. EW 162.3

“Gospel Workers 1892”
Well would it be for us if we could always remember Calvary, where Jesus bore the terrible burden of the sins of the world. In his expiring agony hear him exclaim, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me!” [Matthew 27:46.] and remember that he endured the hiding of HIS FATHER’S FACE, that it might not be forever hidden from fallen man. He endured shame, cruel scourging, insult, and mockery, that we might be reconciled to God and rescued from endless death. GW92 419.2

“S. D. A. Bible commentary vol 7″
The Lord gives to every angel his work for this fallen world. Divine help is provided for men and women. They have the opportunity of cooperating with the heavenly intelligences, of being laborers together with God. There is placed before them the possibility of gaining a fitness for the presence of God, OF BEING ENABLED TO SEE HIS FACE. 7BC 923.4

” The adventist home”
The thought of God will run like a thread of gold through all our homely cares and occupations. For us THE GLORY OF HIS FACE will again rest upon the face of nature. We shall ever be learning new lessons of heavenly truth and growing into the image of His purity. 11 AH 144.2

“Christ’s object lessons”
The priests and elders had had unmistakable evidence of Christ’s power. In His cleansing of the temple they had seen Heaven’s authority FLASHING FROM HIS FACE. They could not resist the power by which He spoke. COL 273.3

“Counsels for the church”
enchanting music in melodious strains rising in honor of God and the Lamb; and ceaseless streams of light flowing upon the saints FROM THE FACE OF HIM who sitteth upon the throne, and from the Lamb; Cch 186.2

“Counsels to teachers, parents and students”
As soon as the holy pair transgressed the law of the Most High, THE BRIGHTNESS FROM THE FACE OF GOD departed from the face of nature. CT 186.1
THE FACES OF MEN CAN ALSO GLOW WITH GOD’S GLORY

“Selected messages book 1”
Christ taught the gospel plan to Moses, and the glory of the gospel, through Christ, illuminated the countenance of Moses so that the people could not look upon it. 1SM 231.3
Moses himself was unconscious of the beaming glory reflected upon his face, and knew not why the children of Israel fled from him when he approached them. He called them to him, but they dared not look upon that glorified face. When Moses learned that the people could not LOOK UPON HIS FACE, BECAUSE OF ITS GLORY, he covered it with a veil. 1SM 232.1
THE GLORY UPON THE FACE OF MOSES was exceedingly painful to the children of Israel because of their transgression of God’s holy law.

OF ZACHARIAH
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“Desire of ages”
But as he came forth from the holy place, HIS FACE WAS SHINING with the glory of God, “and they perceived that he had seen a vision in the temple.” DA 99.3

OF CHRISTIANS
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“Counsels on health”
Those who are engaged in this work are to reflect THE SUNLIGHT OF CHRIST’S FACE. They are to be as salt that has not lost its savor. CH 211.4

Acusacion: El martirio no es al cumbre

ACUSACION
Daisy dice que Jesús le dijo que el martirio está a su apogeo. Víctor dice que esto no es cierto, que el martirio llegará a su cumbre despues del decreto.

Apoc 13:15 Y le fue dado que diese vida a la imagen de la bestia, para que la imagen de la bestia hablase; e hiciese que todos los que no adorasen la imagen de la bestia fuesen MUERTOS.

Apoc 20: 4 Y vi tronos, y a los que se sentaron sobre ellos les fue dado juicio; y vi las almas de los DECAPITADOS por el testimonio de Jesús, y por la palabra de Dios, y QUE NO HABÍAN ADORADO la bestia, ni a su imagen, y que no recibieron la marca en sus frentes ni en sus manos, y vivieron y reinaron con Cristo mil años.

RESPUESTA

1) hay mas martirios, como de igual manera hay una Iglesia visible y una invisible. Jesús ve todo, El ve tambien Su iglesia invisible la cual nosotros no podemos verla, y esta iglesia es tambien el blanco de los ataques del maligno. Muchos cristianos están siendo matados hoy. A pesar de que ellos no tienen la verdad adventista ellos son la Iglesia invisible de Dios.
El martirio fisico, de muerte, de la iglesia visible (Apoc 20:4) será despues del decreto, en el pequeño tiempo de angustia. Muchos serán encerrados o matados. El decreto de muerte para los 144mil será despues del cierre del tiempo de gracia e ninguno de los 144mil no será matado.

2) La Biblia y el Espiritu de Profecia
nos enseña que el martirio no se refiere solamente en ser matado fisicamente, sino también en ser perseguido, acusado, burlado, mal hablado etc
HOY EL MARTIRIO PSÍQUICO Y ESPIRITUAL DEL REMANENTE ESTÁ A SU CUMBRE, así como Jesús le dijo a Daisy. Los que tienen la verdad SON PERSEGUIDOS (MATADOS) por la Organización de Adventista del Séptimo Día nominales, laodiceences.
Debido a que el martirio fisico es un asunto claro para los adventistas del séptimo día, más abajo nos ocuparémos en exponer las evidencias inspiradas para EL MARTIRIO PSÍQUICO Y ESPIRITUAL QUE HOY ESTÁ A SU CUMBRE EN LA ORGANIZACIÓN ADVENTISTA DE LOS SÉPTIMO DÍA (Ezequiel 34).
EVIDENCIAS BÍBLICAS

COMENTARIO: la persecución, la falta de comida, la falta de ropa, el odio, las calumnias, los chismes y todo mal hablar equivalen con MATAR, en los ojos de Dios. En la Biblia tambien la INIQUIDAD es llamada por Dios ABOMINACION Y DERRAME DE SANGRE.
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Sal 44: 22 Pero por causa de ti NOS MATAN TODO EL DÍA; somos tenidos como ovejas para el matadero.
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Rom 8: 33-36 ¿Quién ACUSARÁ a los escogidos de Dios? Dios es el que justifica.
34 ¿QUIÉN ES EL QUE CONDENARÁ? Cristo es el que murió, y más aun, el que también resucitó, el que además está a la diestra de Dios, el que también intercede por nosotros.
35 ¿Quién nos separará del amor de Cristo? ¿TRIBULACIÓN , o ANGUSTIA , o PERSECUCIÓN , o HAMBRE , o DESNUDEZ , o PELIGRO , o ESPADA?
36 Como está escrito: Por causa de ti SOMOS MUERTOS TODO EL TIEMPO ; somos contados como ovejas de matadero.
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Jer 18: 18 Y dijeron: Venid, y tramemos maquinaciones contra Jeremías; porque la ley no faltará del sacerdote, ni consejo del sabio, ni palabra del profeta. VENID E MATAMOSLO (nakah=to strike, smite, hit, beat, slay, kill) DE LENGUA (law-shone= lenguaje, habla), y no miremos a ninguna de sus palabras.
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Mat 5:21,22 Oísteis que fue dicho por los antiguos: NO MATARÁS; y cualquiera que matare estará expuesto a juicio.
Mas yo os digo que cualquiera que sin razón SE ENOJARE contra su hermano, estará en peligro del juicio; y cualquiera que dijere a su hermano: Raca, estará en peligro del concilio; y cualquiera que LE DIJERE: FATUO, estará expuesto al infierno de fuego.
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Isa 33:15 El que camina en justicia, y habla lo recto; el que aborrece la ganancia de violencias, el que sacude sus manos por no recibir cohecho, el QUE TAPA SU OÍDO PARA NO OÍR SANGRE, el que cierra sus ojos para no ver cosa mala:
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Isa 59:3 Porque VUESTRAS MANOS ESTÁN CONTAMINADAS DE SANGRE, y vuestros dedos de iniquidad; VUESTROS LABIOS PRONUNCIAN MENTIRA, HABLA MALDAD VUESTRA LENGUA.
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Isa 59:7 Sus pies corren al mal, y SE APRESURAN PARA DERRAMAR LA SANGRE INOCENTE; SUS PENSAMIENTOS, SON PENSAMIENTOS DE INIQUIDAD, destrucción y quebrantamiento hay en sus caminos.
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Jer 7:6 y no OPRIMIREIS al extranjero, al huérfano, y a la viuda, ni en este lugar DERRAMAREIS LA SANGRE inocente, ni anduviereis en pos de dioses ajenos para mal vuestro;
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Jer 22:3 Así dice Jehová: Haced juicio y justicia, y librad al oprimido de mano del opresor, y NO ENGAÑÉIS , NI ROBEIS al extranjero, ni al huérfano, ni a la viuda, NI DERRAMÉIS SANGRE INOCENTE en este lugar.
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Ezequiel 18: 10-13 Mas si engendrare hijo ladrón, DERRAMADOR DE SANGRE, o que haga alguna cosa de éstas,
11 y que no haga las otras; antes comiere sobre los montes, o DESHONRARE a la esposa de su prójimo,
12 al pobre y menesteroso OPRIMIERE , cometiere ROBOS, NO DEVOLVIERE LA PRENDA, o ALZARE SUS OJOS A LOS ÍDOLOS, e HICIERE ABOMINACIÓN,
13 DIERE A USURA Y PRESTARE A INTERÉS; ¿vivirá éste? No vivirá. Todas estas abominaciones hizo, de cierto morirá; su sangre será sobre él.
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Ezequiel 22: 1-12 Y vino a mí palabra de Jehová, diciendo:
2 Y tú, hijo de hombre, ¿no juzgarás tú, no juzgarás tú a LA CIUDAD DERRAMADORA DE SANGRE, y le mostrarás todas sus ABOMINACIONES?
3 Dirás, pues: Así dice Jehová el Señor: ¡Ciudad DERRAMADORA DE SANGRE en medio de sí, para que venga su hora, y que hizo ídolos contra sí misma para contaminarse!
4 En tu SANGRE QUE DERRAMASTE has pecado, y te has contaminado en tus ídolos que hiciste; y has hecho acercar tus días, y has llegado al término de tus años; por tanto, te he dado en oprobio a las naciones, y en escarnio a todas las tierras.
5 Las que están cerca de ti y las que están lejos se reirán de ti, que eres amancillada de nombre y de gran turbación.
6 He aquí que los príncipes de Israel, cada uno según su poder, estuvieron en ti PARA DERRAMAR SANGRE.
7 DESPRECIARON en ti AL PADRE Y A LA MADRE; al extranjero trataron con violencia en medio de ti; y DESPOJARON en ti AL HUÉRFANO y A LA VIUDA.
8 Has MENOSPRECIADO MIS COSAS SAGRADAS, Y MIS SÁBADOS HAS PROFANADO.
9 CALUMNIADORES hubo en ti para derramar sangre; y sobre los montes comieron en ti; hicieron en medio de ti PERVERSIDADES .
10 LA DESNUDEZ DEL PADRE DESCUBRIERON en ti; LA INMUNDICIA DE MENSTRUAL HUMILLARON en ti.
11 Y cada uno hizo ABOMINACIÓN CON LA ESPOSA DE SU PRÓJIMO; y otro CONTAMINÓ pervertidamente A SU NUERA ; y en ti otro HUMILLÓ A SU HERMANA, HIJA DE SU PADRE.
12 PRECIO RECIBIERON en ti para DERRAMAR SANGRE; INTERÉS Y USURA TOMASTE , y a tus prójimos DEFRAUDASTE con violencia; TE OLVIDASTE DE MÍ, dice Jehová el Señor.
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Ezeq 23:37 Porque han ADULTERADO, y HAY SANGRE EN SUS MANOS, y HAN COMETIDO ADULTERIO con sus ídolos; y aun sus hijos que habían dado a luz para mí, hicieron pasar por el fuego, quemándolos.
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Ezeq 23:45 Por tanto, hombres justos las juzgarán por la ley de las adúlteras, y por la ley de las que DERRAMAN SANGRE; PORQUE SON ADÚLTERAS, Y SANGRE HAY EN SUS MANOS.
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Isaias 1:15-17 Cuando extendiereis vuestras manos, yo esconderé de vosotros mis ojos; asimismo cuando multiplicareis la oración, yo no oiré; LLENAS ESTÁN DE SANGRE VUESTRAS MANOS.
16 Lavaos, limpiaos; quitad la iniquidad de vuestras obras de delante de mis ojos; DEJAD DE HACER LO MALO.
17 Aprended a hacer el bien; buscad juicio, RESTITUIDO AL AGRAVIADO, HACED JUSTICIA al HUÉRFANO, ABOGAD POR LA VIUDA.
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Os 6:8 Galaad, ciudad de obradores de INIQUIDAD, ENSUCIADA DE SANGRE.
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Miquea 3: 9-11 Oíd ahora esto, cabezas de la casa de Jacob, y capitanes de la casa de Israel, que ABOMINÁIS EL JUICIO, y PERVERTÍS TODO EL DERECHO ;
10 Que edificáis a SIÓN CON SANGRE, y a JERUSALÉN CON INJUSTICIA;
11 Sus cabezas JUZGAN POR COHECHO, y sus sacerdotes enseñan POR PRECIO, y sus profetas adivinan POR DINERO; y se apoyan en Jehová diciendo: ¿No está Jehová entre nosotros? No vendrá mal sobre nosotros.
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Miquea 7:2-6 Faltó el misericordioso de la tierra, y ninguno hay recto entre los hombres: todos acechan por SANGRE; CADA CUAL ARMA RED A SU HERMANO.
3 Para completar LA MALDAD CON AMBAS MANOS, el príncipe demanda, y el juez juzga por recompensa; y el grande, habla el antojo de su alma, y lo confirman.
4 El mejor de ellos es como el abrojo; el más recto, como zarzal; el día de tus atalayas, tu visitación viene; ahora será su confusión.
5 No creáis en amigo, ni confiéis en príncipe: de la que duerme a tu lado, guarda, no abras tu boca.
6 Porque EL HIJO DESHONRA AL PADRE, LA HIJA SE LEVANTA CONTRA LA MADRE, LA NUERA CONTRA SU SUEGRA; y los enemigos del hombre son los de su propia casa.
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Naum 3:1 ¡Ay de la CIUDAD SANGUINARIA, toda llena de MENTIRA y de RAPIÑA , sin apartarse de ella el PILLAJE!
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Habacuc 2: 12 ¡Ay del que EDIFICA LA CIUDAD CON SANGRE, y del que FUNDA UNA CIUDAD CON INIQUIDAD!

COMENTARIO: el martirio actual de la Organizacion ASD, el de los lideres en contra de los miembros cuales tienen la verdad, es reflejado fielmente en Ezequiel 34:
1Y vino a mí palabra de Jehová, diciendo:
2 Hijo de hombre, profetiza contra los pastores de Israel; profetiza, y diles a los pastores: Así dice Jehová el Señor: ¡Ay de los pastores de Israel, que se apacientan a sí mismos! ¿No deben los pastores apacentar los rebaños?
3 Coméis la grosura, y os vestís de la lana; la engordada DEGOLLAÍS, pero no apacentáis las ovejas.
4 No fortalecisteis las débiles, ni curasteis la enferma; no vendasteis la perniquebrada, no hicisteis volver la descarriada, ni buscasteis la perdida; sino que os habéis enseñoreado de ellas con dureza y con violencia;
5 Y ellas fueron dispersadas por falta de pastor; y fueron para ser comidas de toda bestia del campo, y fueron dispersadas.
6 Y anduvieron perdidas mis ovejas por todos los montes, y en todo collado alto; y por toda la faz de la tierra fueron dispersadas mis ovejas, y no hubo quien las buscase ni preguntase por ellas.
7 Por tanto, pastores, oíd palabra de Jehová:
8 Vivo yo, dice Jehová el Señor, que por cuanto mi rebaño ha venido a ser por presa, y por falta de pastor MIS OVEJAS HAN VENIDO A SER POR COMIDA a todas las fieras del campo; y mis pastores no buscaron mis ovejas, sino que los pastores se apacentaron a sí mismos, y no apacentaron mis ovejas;
9 Por tanto, oh pastores, oíd palabra de Jehová:
10 Así dice Jehová el Señor: He aquí, yo estoy contra los pastores; y requeriré mis ovejas de su mano, y les haré dejar de apacentar las ovejas; ni los pastores se apacentarán más a sí mismos; pues yo libraré mis ovejas DE SUS BOCAS, Y NO LES SERÁN MÁS POR COMIDA.
EVIDENCIAS DEL ESPIRITU DE PROFECIA

“Manuscript 17, 1898”
El pueblo del Señor está compuesto principalmente por los pobres de este mundo, la gente común. No muchos sabios, no muchos poderosos, no muchos nobles son llamados. Dios ha elegido a los pobres de este mundo. A los pobres se les ha predicado el evangelio. Los ricos son llamados, en un sentido; están invitados, pero ellos no aceptan la invitación. Pero en estas ciudades malvadas, el Señor tiene muchos que son humildes y totavia de confianza. Muchos de estos ministros del evangelio no saben nada. Las iglesias no los conocen, porque hay muchos profesores, pero pocos que ministran; pero ellos son las luces del Señor, que brillan en lugares humildes y miserables. PACIENTES , MANSOS , AMABLES , SUFRIENDO DE DESNUDEZ, HAMBRE Y FRÍO , SON LOS MÁRTIRES DEL SEÑOR. Los ángeles los visitan y llevan al cielo el registro de que la capital del Señor, confiada a agentes humanos, es malversada, que la iglesia es culpable de malgastar los medios del Señor. Ms17-1898.2
Fue un insulto a Dios cuando David numeró a Israel. La reprensión de Dios recayó sobre él; porque se hizo a sí mismo como Dios, como si pudiera contar la fuerza de los ejércitos de Israel por su número. “Esta es la palabra de Jehová a Zorobabel, que dice: No con ejército, ni con fuerza, sino con mi espíritu, dice Jehová de los ejércitos”. Dios no mira a los números de Israel por el éxito de su obra. Sus ejércitos suman miles de miles y diez mil veces diez mil. Estos cooperan con los hombres que se conectarán con Dios para ser canales de luz. Ms17-1898.3
En nuestras ciudades hay miles que tienen el temor de Dios ante ellos, quienes no han doblado la rodilla ante Baal. Debido a que muchos de ellos se encuentran en circunstancias modestas, el mundo no los nota. Pero aunque estén escondidos en lugares poblados u aislados, estos buscan a Dios. Ms17-1898.4
Es debido a la pobreza que muchos están enfermos, y debido a la enfermedad, hay tanta pobreza. Muchos en su pobreza ministran a otros. La recompensa recibida por estos será proporcional a su obediencia voluntaria. Jesús vio cómo sería, y desea que sus siervos se comuniquen con estos que sufren. El último llamado del evangelio debe sonar, no solo en los lugares poblados, sino también en los aislados. Ms17-1898.5

“Testimonies for the church volume two”
Pero los pobres niños , que piensan que la madre conoce mejor lo que es correcto, son los que más sufren. El curso equivocado de la madre la ha debilitado a sí misma, y, si hace frío, se viste en más ropa, y proporciona lo mismo a los niños, pensando que también deben tener frío. Las puertas y ventanas están cerradas, y la temperatura de la habitación está aumentada. Los niños son frecuentemente pequeños y débiles, y no poseen un alto grado de valor moral. El esposo y los hijos están así encerrados durante el invierno, esclavos de las nociones de una mujer controlada por la imaginación y, a veces, teniendo una voluntad inmovible. LOS MIEMBROS DE ESA FAMILIA SON MÁRTIRES A DIARIO. Están sacrificando la salud al capricho de una mujer imaginativa, quejica y quejumbrosa. Se ven privados, en gran medida, de aire, lo que los vigorizaría y les daría energía y vitalidad. 2T 532.1

“Healthful living” “Vida saludable”
Muchos bebés se envenenan más allá del remedio, durmiendo en camas con sus padres que consumen tabaco. Al inhalar el efluvio del tabaco venenoso, que se lanza desde los pulmones y los poros de la piel, el sistema del bebé se llena de veneno. Mientras actúa sobre algunos bebés como un veneno lento, y afecta el cerebro, el corazón, el hígado y los pulmones, y se pierden y desaparecen gradualmente; sobre otros tiene una influencia más directa, causando espasmos, parálisis y muerte súbita. Los desconsolados padres lloran la pérdida de sus seres queridos y se maravillan de la misteriosa providencia de Dios, que los ha castigado tan cruelmente, cuando la Providencia no diseñó la muerte de estos bebés. MURIERON MÁRTIRES DE LA SUCIA LUJURIA DEL TABACO. Cada exhalación de los pulmones del esclavo del tabaco envenena el aire que lo rodea. – The Health Reformer, 1 de enero de 1872. HL 111.1
“Selected messages book 2”
Miles de bebés han muerto que podrían haber vivido. ELLOS SON MÁRTIRES DE LA IGNORANCIA DE SUS PADRES sobre la relación de la comida, la vestimenta y el aire que respiran y el sosten de la salud y la vida. Las madres de épocas pasadas deberían haber sido médicos de sus propios hijos. 2SM 469.1
“Testimonios sobre comportamiento sexual, adulterio y divorcio”
HOY EN DÍA HAY MUCHOS MÁRTIRES VIVOS que sufren en silencio, que confían en Dios cuando son MALTRATADOS CON LA LENGUA y que son ATORMENTADOS , que son HERIDOS y LASTIMADOS por DENUNCIAS ÁSPERAS, DURAS, cuya suerte parece ser vivir y SUFRIR, recibir consuelo solo de Jesús que es la fuente de su fortaleza. TALES ALMAS SON MISIONEROS. Son los nobles de Cristo, y sus nombres están escritos en el Libro de la Vida del Cordero. TSB 47.2

“Manuscrito 56, 1886”
De igual forma será con el resto del pueblo de Dios que está disperso: algunos en la fortaleza de las montañas, algunos exiliados, otros perseguidos y acosados. Cuando se escucha la voz de Dios, y se revela el resplandor de la gloria, y la prueba termina, la escoria eliminada, ellos saben que están en la presencia de Aquel que los ha redimido por Su propia sangre. Justo lo que Cristo fue para Juan en su exilio, Él será para Su pueblo, cual está hecho a sentir la mano de la opresión por la fe y el testimonio de Jesucristo. ESTOS MISMOS MÁRTIRES serán un día resplandecientes con la gloria de Dios porque Él tiene fieles que han sido leales donde el mundo, las iglesias, han invalidado su santa ley. Estos fueron empujados ​​por la tormenta y la tempestad de la persecución a las grietas de las rocas, pero se escondieron en la Roca Eterna; y en la solidez de las montañas, en las cuevas y guaridas de la tierra, el Salvador revela Su presencia y Su gloria. Ms56-1886.14 Ms56-1886.14

CONCLUSION

Hay muchas clases de mártires en el pueblo de Dios, visibles e invisibles hoy en día:
– los mártires vivos que sufren de hambre, pobreza, enfermedades, etc., y quienes sin embargo sirven a Dios
– los mártires de las concupiscencias de los padres y el pecado de no implementar la reforma pro-salud en la vida práctica
-mártires con vida que son “MALTRATADOS CON LA LENGUA y que son ATORMENTADOS , que son HERIDOS y LASTIMADOS por DENUNCIAS ÁSPERAS, DURAS,” injustamente perseguidos por la verdad, llamados extremistas, disidentes, separatistas, átomos independientes .
– los mártires vivos en prisión o muertos, de la iglesia invisible, en todo el mundo. Ésta es también la iglesia de Dios.

Y en el futuro, por decreto, tendremos los últimos mártires en el pequeño tiempo de angustia mientras sigue la gracia. Estod son todos aquellos que no aceptarán la marca de la bestia, bajo pena de muerte o la prison. (Apocalipsis 20: 4)
PODEMOS CONCLUIR QUE LO QUE SE LE DICE A DAISY ES VERDAD. EL MARTIRIO ES AL CUMBRE HOY Y PERMANECERÁ EN LA CUMBRE HASTA SU FINAL , EN EL DECRETO DOMINICAL.

En el gran tiempo de angustia, después del cierre de la gracia se dará el decreto de muerte mundial que no causará ninguna víctima. En aquel entonces, después del cierre de la gracia, no habrá ningun mártir muerto.

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